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Post by beerkeg on May 29, 2013 14:20:24 GMT -5
I found a local mechanic who is familiar with the Benelli I have and he's going to work on it for me. He confirmed what Skutta said about getting to the carb from the top after removing the seat bucket. He's going to put on a BBK for me as well. It should end up a bit over 72cc when he's done. I rode it down to his shop this morning and he looked it over and told me it was a sweet ride but should be doing much better than it is but it will have some guts when he's through with it. On the way home is when the new crazy stuff started. She stopped running at a stop light and restarted right away, shortly after that, about 4 blocks from home it just cut out as if I had hit the kill switch or something. Thought that might be what happened but got off the road and tried to restart.....got nothing, not even a click. Called AAA to come get me and they said about an hour so I sat for maybe 15 minutes and tried it again, it started right up and I rode on home and called to cancel the service truck. Apparently once it cooled off a little it fired right up again. That's a first. Anyone else ever had this happen or know why it just quit running?
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Post by gitsum on Jun 5, 2013 16:19:57 GMT -5
I believe the Benelli M50 is a two-stroke engine. If it suddenly stopped and then started again after a few minutes, it sounds like you had a soft seize. The engine overheated and the cylinder/piston/rings expanded until they seized up. After cooling down for a few minutes you were able to restart. You might have caused some damage to the piston rings and some scoring to the cylinder walls.
But I guess if you are going to install a BBK, these parts will be replaced anyway. Proper jetting is very critical for a two-stroke engine to prevent overheating, especially after a BBK is installed. Most people don't, but I would recommend adjusting the oil pump for more flow when upgrading to a BBK. You need to know that the Benelli brand is a Chinese made scooter, even though it is marketed as an upscale brand. Plain and simple the cylinder, piston, piston rings and cylinder head will be made of a lower quality metal that is softer and more prone to a soft seizure. Installing a quality BBK kit can help, but the engine casings and crankshaft will still be made out of inferior metal. The oil pump will be a cheapo without a way to adjust, but you can replace it with a much higher quality Mikuni that is adjustable. Or you can simply add an extra ounce of two-stroke oil to every full tank of fuel, but that's a pain.
These glorified Benelli M50's usually sell for $1500-$1600, I hope you got yours for a cheaper price. A Kymco Agility 125 is much higher quality, has more performance than a typical 72cc BBK two-stroke, and has much better fuel economy for $1800. The only advantage I can see for a 49cc is operating in one of the few states that don't require tags or insurance, but the usually have a moped speed cap of 30-35mph. I rode both a stock Yamaha C3 and a SYM DD50 legally unregistered in New Mexico, but I was always wary of getting a ticket because both would top out close to 45 mph.
It's not my intention to bash your Benelli M50, just letting you know what to expect. Good luck, I hope my info was helpful.
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Post by hank on Jun 5, 2013 18:20:46 GMT -5
Hi Benellis are manufactured in PESARO, ITALY not china And i ride 2 t 50s as the performance is much better then any small 4 stroke My aprilia sr 50 r factory is more then a match for a 4 t 150 Top speed so far 63mph Sr 50 top speed by inuyasha50, on Flickr Also my state has no speed restrictions imposed www.ct.gov/dmv/cwp/view.asp?a=810&q=430480Take care and ride safely my friend Yours Hank
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Post by gitsum on Jun 6, 2013 1:55:15 GMT -5
Hi Benellis are manufactured in PESARO, ITALY not china And i ride 2 t 50s as the performance is much better then any small 4 stroke My aprilia sr 50 r factory is more then a match for a 4 t 150 Top speed so far 63mph Benelli was bought out by Qianjiang of China. The M50 is Chinese designed and manufactured. As part of the buyout deal Q.J. kept the factory in Presaro Italy and the employees. But make no mistake about it, the glory days of Italian Benelli motorcycles are no more, and the M50 is produced with Chinese parts. The Aprilia SR 50 is an awesome machine, one of the best 50cc machines ever made in my opinion. But it is liquid-cooled and uses direct injection. The Minarelli or lesser known Franco Morini 2-stroke 49cc engines produce around 5 HP stock when tuned properly without restrictions. A typical Taiwanese 4-stroke 125cc scooter makes 8.5 - 9.5 horsepower. Obviously if your SR 50 hits 63 mph, it isn't stock. But I'll take you on with my stock Tomos Nitro 150. It has about 10.5 horsepower and weighs 236 lbs. I did put in some Dr. Pulley sliders, and it's pretty quick to 50 mph. But you would have to mod a lot more to beat my former HD 200 EVO. Exhaust pipe and mild intake mods, it reached an actual 80 mph and could match my Suzuki TU250X in a 10 - 60 mph roll on.
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Post by skuttadawg on Jun 6, 2013 12:26:28 GMT -5
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Post by skuttadawg on Jun 6, 2013 12:37:46 GMT -5
I replaced the 40 idle jet with a 45 and it starts and idles much better with a BBK as before it would stall or idle too high and had to adjust as the temps changed . I have ran a 120 MJ with BBK , pipe and Uni and it seems to like a 105 MJ too. Most use Mikuni VM 11/22 main jets like here www.scrappydogscooters.com/50cc_2stroke_Performance.html or at www.power-barn.com
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Post by hank on Jun 6, 2013 12:48:45 GMT -5
Hi Benellis are manufactured in PESARO, ITALY not china And i ride 2 t 50s as the performance is much better then any small 4 stroke My aprilia sr 50 r factory is more then a match for a 4 t 150 Top speed so far 63mph Benelli was bought out by Qianjiang of China. The M50 is Chinese designed and manufactured. As part of the buyout deal Q.J. kept the factory in Presaro Italy and the employees. But make no mistake about it, the glory days of Italian Benelli motorcycles are no more, and the M50 is produced with Chinese parts. The Aprilia SR 50 is an awesome machine, one of the best 50cc machines ever made in my opinion. But it is liquid-cooled and uses direct injection. The Minarelli or lesser known Franco Morini 2-stroke 49cc engines produce around 5 HP stock when tuned properly without restrictions. A typical Taiwanese 4-stroke 125cc scooter makes 8.5 - 9.5 horsepower. Obviously if your SR 50 hits 63 mph, it isn't stock. But I'll take you on with my stock Tomos Nitro 150. It has about 10.5 horsepower and weighs 236 lbs. I did put in some Dr. Pulley sliders, and it's pretty quick to 50 mph. But you would have to mod a lot more to beat my former HD 200 EVO. Exhaust pipe and mild intake mods, it reached an actual 80 mph and could match my Suzuki TU250X in a 10 - 60 mph roll on. Hi Sorry , but shes still stock except for the Dr Pulley Sliders i put in and i removed all restrictions and remapped the ecu for a better power band with a gameboy Shes not a base SR 50 but the SR 50 R Factory which is their highest performance stock scoot, factory tuned for racing Once i do go with a bbk she should be in the 70+mph range Take care and ride safely my friend Yours Hank
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Post by gitsum on Jun 6, 2013 16:44:52 GMT -5
Nice!
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