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Post by Skunk Shampoo on Mar 1, 2013 16:07:20 GMT -5
Hello, my name is Shawn. My main mode of transportation is a cheap bicycle. I've never looked into owning a motor vehicle until recently. I'm 31 years old and I've never had a license. I have been wanting to get a better bike because this one just isn't cutting it for climbing hills. I was considering skipping the pedals altogether and get a motorcycle, but I'm told that a scooter would be a better way to go. Looking into it, I have to agree. That's when I found out about Chinese scooters and I heard that ScootDawg was the best place to go to learn about them, so that brings me here .
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Post by terrilee on Mar 1, 2013 16:15:08 GMT -5
HIYA & WELCOME STINKY j/k lol
yea this would be the place to learn about 'em let us know how far you need to go, what the surroundings are like , ya know , big hills , lil ones, flats etc.
what state your in. The reason i ask in some states you dont need a license, etc for a 49cc scoot. Pa, where i am, you need it all, motorcycle license, registration, insurance etc etc
just 'member the only dumb question is the one NOT asked.
glad ur here
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Post by JR on Mar 1, 2013 16:34:29 GMT -5
Welcome.
So what scooter are you considering.
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Post by Skunk Shampoo on Mar 1, 2013 19:51:56 GMT -5
Hi Terrilee & Doug I live in Oregon and I think the manual from the DMV says I just need a car license for a 50cc. I live 6 miles out of town, up in the hills. In most cases, my trips will be 8 to 15 miles. 20 on occassion. The road home is not too bad. Next to no traffic. Fairly light incline with a few steeper spots. There are also a couple corners while going downhill. All paved roads. Once I'm in town, everything is easy. Flat and level. And last but not least, we have quite a bit of rain over here. The scooter that has my attention is a Trans-It 50cc which I found on Green Earth Scooters. It seems to go by "TPGS-830". Manufactured by Peace Sports, I think. That's just what I could gather from Google. Here's the store page for the scooter I'm looking at: www.greenearthscooters.com/detail.cfm?id=974The main points of interest here are the 340lb max load, the 50cc engine (no motorcycle license needed), and the extra cargo options. The style looks plain, but the features give it a lot of value to me. I'm only 150 lbs, but I'm hoping that the 340 lb max load would give me extra power if I need it. Here it is from the side www.usaluxe.com/PictureModelAngle.php?Picture_Angle_No=100035My main concern with this scooter is the weight (275 lbs). I'm concerned how this would effect the performance when riding on hills, cornering, and braking... As well as how I might be able to pull it out of a ditch, haha . I also see they make a 150cc version. Is Peace Sports a good brand? *edited* Trimmed the text down so it isn't too long to read
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Post by leftwayleft on Mar 1, 2013 20:05:58 GMT -5
Welcome! My only concern is 50cc scooter on steep hills...
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Post by JR on Mar 1, 2013 20:29:06 GMT -5
Yeah. If you have to keep the size down to avoid needing a motorcycle license I would suggest getting a two stroke. Those are a chunk of change if you can find one but would handle the hills much better. If you go for the ones you posted I think you will need to modify it for riding up and down hills.
If you get the 150cc scooter it will probably keep you happy much longer than a 50 cc four stroke would.
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Post by terrilee on Mar 1, 2013 20:49:11 GMT -5
i concurif u have to have a 50 cc, 2 t { 2 stroke} is the only way to go. myself, i'd recommend a 150, but u dont want the license and insurance , etc, i gather? a 4t 50 will die on those hills that i am imagining
the govt is trying to get rid of 2t's tho, so they are getting expensive.
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Post by Skunk Shampoo on Mar 2, 2013 0:33:33 GMT -5
The 50cc models do seem like less of a hassle with the DMV and things... But yeah... the hills. I was afraid of that. That's ok. I didn't really want to be putting around at 30MPH anyways . 150cc it is. I see the Trans-It TPGS-830 has a 150cc variant, the TPGS-830-150 www.greenearthscooters.com/detail.cfm?id=983Are the 150cc models more dependable in most cases? And say I get adventurous and decide I'd like to take a trip down to the coast (80 miles away. I've never had that level of freedom so this has got me thinking of the possibilities), would that be a good idea on a Chinese scooter, or should I be looking closer to Japan or Taiwan? This will be my primary mode of transportation (thus, the rather boxy looking utility scooter). I'm liking the longer body with all the great storage space.
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Post by JR on Mar 2, 2013 1:14:10 GMT -5
You can probably find a used Japanese scooter on craigslist for about the price of a new Chinese scooter. If you are not a mechanically inclined person you would probably be better off with the Japanese scooter.
You can ride a 150 the 80 mile trip you are talking about, but you should be riding a well cared for one you trust. I think from the way you sound, 250 may be what you really need.
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Post by terrilee on Mar 2, 2013 8:37:20 GMT -5
yes, again i concur if your planning on 80 mile trips a 250 might be better for ya. a 150 can do the trip, but at lower speeds. a finely tuned and cared for 150, can run 45-50 mph all day long but for a 80 mile trip id do 1/2 that, stop for a hour or so then do the other 1/2
Check your Craigslist for used ones. as DOUG also said, if your NOT mechanically inclined id spend a bit more and go Jap or Taiwanese scoot
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Post by teddy554 on Mar 2, 2013 9:13:18 GMT -5
That looks like a nice scooter should do you fine with proper upkeep
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Post by Skunk Shampoo on Mar 3, 2013 5:49:34 GMT -5
Hi guys, the feedback has been much appreciated. It has given me a lot to think about. I think my desire to stray far from home will only get worse as I discover my new limits. There's plenty of interesting places in my state that I would love to visit. The coast being one of the closer spots (80 miles). Then there's the town of Sisters, which is a fun tourist town. Peterson's Rock Garden Enchanted Forest theme park (hey, why not?) I'm considering raising my budget to accommodate something more hearty. And craigs list does have some interesting deals... 150cc Vespa for $1,000 eugene.craigslist.org/mcy/3615797334.html150cc Yamaha for $1,250 eugene.craigslist.org/mcd/3638052416.htmlI'm wondering if I should start out with a cheaper scoot for local trips and to gain experience with riding and maintenance... Eventually, I would like to save up for a touring scooter. Something hearty and dependable. There are so many choices and options to consider. This is a whole new world for me .
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Post by shalomrider on Mar 3, 2013 11:06:36 GMT -5
howdy there tomato(skunkshampoo) and welcome to the forum.
this is going to be the go-to place i hope for the kind of info a beginner will need.
your ride to the coast, since i know the road, will not be safe on anything less than an hd200 sim, kymco 200 types with fuel injection, or the 250 class scooters. the hd200 for instance is no more weight and learning curve than most 50 cc scooters and will give you the uphill speeds in the range of 55 mph with tops in the 70 mph range which lets you go safely over the coast range there. i had the sym and put a large box on the back to carry groceries etc from shopping.
everyone here will recommend a motorcycle safety course and maybe it would be best for you to take that before buying a scooter. that will give you some clues to your personal fitness for what you want to do. most riders on this forum will probably say to buy a scooter first and practice so consider that and maybe go to where the classes are being given and see what is involved. bus service in salem might get you there?
again welcome
lotsa miles and smiles to ya ken
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 3, 2013 18:30:10 GMT -5
Welcome, skunky! Ken's right--find and take a beginner's MSF (Motorcycle Safety Foundation) class. Best money you'll spend for your scooter! Even improves car-driving skills. Then get the scooter. If you're like me (meaning non-mechanical), avoid Chinese. Or else have a close friend who doesn't mind tinkering on your bike for you. Japanese, Italian are built like rocks. Taiwanese is right up there. Here's a few more in Eugene's CL I found-- eugene.craigslist.org/mcd/3654782194.html (I believe this is only a 150cc, but the larger tires will help get a higher top speed. And rocky'll tell you Aprilia's are more than rock-solid, and that his 250 hits 80+ mph) eugene.craigslist.org/mcy/3630817137.html (Suzuki Burgy-hey, nothing wrong with dreaming big!) eugene.craigslist.org/mcy/3559530928.html (Piggy Fly) corvallis.craigslist.org/mcy/3610317926.html (older Honda, but folks'll tell you still a good bike) corvallis.craigslist.org/mcy/3643775805.html (Oh man, a Yami Morph! Drool, drool!) Btb, the Vespa you listed is actually a Piaggio, made by Piaggio. Pig owns Vespa, not the other way around. Seller is an idiot, but that's okay maybe you can get a good deal off him. Lots of good used out there, depending on what look you want. Me, I'd be hitting on that Morph 'cause it's so sharky and cool. Biggest thing is when you find one you like, go sit on it. See how well you and it fit each other. If you feel like you're reaching, or cramped in, it's not the right scoot for you and move on. If it feels good, then have the owner give you a ride on it. Listen to it, feel how it rides, see if there's anything that doesn't feel like you think it should--really really shaky, extra loud, etc. But take that class first--lots of excellent skills you'll learn, plus most states accept the final riding test for your motorcycle license. >'Kat
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Post by imnts2 on Mar 3, 2013 20:05:32 GMT -5
IMHO you hit it on the head about saving up and buying sdomething hearty and dependable. If you insist on riding a 50cc pay attention ot what Hank is riding. Of course that is not cheap. You might get lucky and find a good used one that is not wornout. 2t tend to wear a bit faster than I lile..
8 miles on a 50cc china scoot in the rain and wanting reliability. Do you work? If so , does you boss like to guess when you will be to work? If not be carefull abotu the unfamiliar names. Ges a Japan name or Italian. To a great degree much of all of them are made in Chinaa, but under tight control and not the cheapest.
If you don't believe me, please take your time and wait till our membership grows and you hear what other newbes experience from the cheaper China brands
Cheers
lefty2
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