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Post by justbuggin2 on Mar 3, 2013 20:26:21 GMT -5
i agree with what most have said before me and in most states if you ride anything bigger than a 50cc bike you will have to have your license to be legal taking the MSC is a must in my oppion
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Post by Skunk Shampoo on Mar 8, 2013 22:23:01 GMT -5
Thanks for all of the feedback, everyone. I'm starting to get a better understanding of what I'm looking for. SylvreKat Thanks for the great suggestions. I won't be able to afford anything now, but that gives me some ideas of what is out there. I think what I will do is save up for a name brand 150cc off of Craig's List for around 1,000. I figure that'll take around 6 months. While I wait for that, I can study up for the tests and look into the safety class. I think the class is $150 here. With the costs of the tests, class, insurance, safety gear, and scooter, that's a lot of saving up! After that, I'm thinking of saving up for something bigger for the long distance trips. As Doug and Shalomrider suggested, I'm planning on getting something 250cc or more. Hopefully I can find something good on Craig's List. That Yamaha Morphous did look great, but I'm sure deals like that are very rare . In any case, I will have plenty of time to find the perfect scoot. As for Chinese scooters, I would like to give one a go but I don't think I'm in a good area to own one. 6 miles up into the woods, I'm afraid I won't be able to push it back up the road if something goes wrong. I do like the idea of working on one though. It sounds like a great way to build mechanical experience.
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Post by terrilee on Mar 8, 2013 22:34:44 GMT -5
do u have a good friend with a 2 inch receiver on the back of the vehicle? and i mean good friend
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Post by prodigit on Mar 9, 2013 0:23:06 GMT -5
Just saying, There's a big difference between a 350+ LBS (usually 200+cc) bike, and a <300 LBS <150cc scooter. I personally prefer agility, the light weight of a 50cc scooter, however some 150cc scooters are just about as light in weight, and very agile!
I think many people on the forum would agree that a 150 generally has power enough to cruise around, and more fun to ride than a motorcycle. For me personally, if I ever have to drag the bike, even if it was out of a garage, everytime I was going to ride, then give me something less than 300LBS. So much more fun and easy; not to mention, you can still push a bike like this, while most 250cc bikes are heavy; and with a flat tire or out of gas, you will have a hard time pushing.
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Post by wutzthedeal on Mar 9, 2013 1:34:46 GMT -5
Shawn, in my experience and from what I've gathered reading, getting a Chinese scoot just gives you something to ride while you rebuild the whole thing into something respectable (just about everything will need replacement, imo). Now that I'm near the end of my upgrades, lacking only replacement hoses and some wiring as for typically replaced parts, I can say that I'm satisfied with this final product, but in general, I wish I had bought a 2t and I wish I had bought Japanese.
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 9, 2013 8:01:22 GMT -5
SylvreKat Thanks for the great suggestions. I won't be able to afford anything now, but that gives me some ideas of what is out there. While I wait for that, I can study up for the tests and look into the safety class. I think the class is $150 here. With the costs of the tests, class, insurance, safety gear, and scooter, that's a lot of saving up! You're welcome, Skunks. Yeah, there seem to be some real good deals on CL if you're just patient and don't jump on the first one you find. I took the Dave Ramsey course and he says keep in control instead of your emotions being in control. That way even if you LOVE what you're looking to buy, if you stay in control you keep your bargaining. Easy to say, hard to pull off sometimes. I didn't with my scoot. Although I did talk them into a free helmet and license etc! Re: the safety class. Consider it like the gear--it's gonna' keep you safer than without it. Seriously. I've used the skills taught driving my car. Came darn close to avoiding getting backed into with the swerve skill. But 2000 pounds of Ford Taurus wagon doesn't swerve quite as nimbly as 325 pounds of Piaggio scooter, sigh. But we almost made it anyways. And like I said, lots of times the tests they give at the end of class count for taking the state tests. You'd have to check that's true in your state, but it was here in KS. Took the class, passed the tests (except the U-turn--we won't talk about that one! ), went for my new DL and didn't need to take any other test. That's worth the price of the class right there! Yeah, keep on saving, take the safety class, keep saving, buy your gear along the way, keep saving. And keep checking CL as you start to get scoot money saved. You might be surprised (and lucky) and find exactly what you want for just what you've saved so far! >'Kat
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Post by terrilee on Mar 9, 2013 8:22:39 GMT -5
the reason i asked if you had a friend with a 2 inch hitch is this attached pic shows a 'scooter/dirt bike carrier'
i got one real cheap of craigslist, but even new they arent very expensive.
stick it in the basement and leave it there. if you ever break down far from home. ya chain the scoot up really well, at a business thats open, ask permission 1st. i walked home, lol, put this carrier on my mini van and went and got my scoot.
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Post by Skunk Shampoo on Mar 13, 2013 0:57:46 GMT -5
terrilee That might be right down my alley. I will have to add one to my wish list! I do have a cousin with a deisel powered pickup truck. The china bike does sound like a fun project, but I'm thinking... like Wutz is saying, I think the cost of replacement parts might set me back while I'm saving up for something better. I like the idea that I can get something really nice for a fraction of the cost of a car. Not that I can afford a car, or anything . The safety class here does count towards the driving test at the DMV (plus lower insurance payments). Sounds good!
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Post by crawdad on Mar 17, 2013 23:53:52 GMT -5
Hey Shawn _ I thought I would put in my two cents as I live in Oregon also. I just recently registered my scoot and the DMV here is VERY fussy about the speed you can go on the flat and also they are touchy about the difference between 49 1/2 and 50 cc .Less then 35 seems to be the required speed. They first tagged mine as a motorcycle because the dealer I bought the scoot from had written 50cc on the bill of sale .I was told I would have to write a test and then go for instructions in Portland and then get my motorcycle attachment to my license and then bring the scoot to the DMV for them to inspect and make sure you can ride it. After much hassling and going to another DMV I finally convinced them that I had a moped ,not a motorcycle .I now have a MP plate and can just use my regular license .The 50 cc thing can be a problem.
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Post by Skunk Shampoo on Mar 18, 2013 13:48:30 GMT -5
crawdad: Wow, that sounds like a pain. If my hills were less hilly, I think I would start with a 50cc. It looks like I'm going to have to get a motorcycle endorsement, though. Not a bad thing, really. So how did you finally convince them it was a 49cc?
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Post by pliam on Mar 27, 2013 17:56:46 GMT -5
Hi, I'm from Albany, OR, and just finished the Team Oregon class, which I would highly recommend. The instructors are great, and it's very informative. After only 10 hours on the scoot, they had me wanting to take it on the 34 to Waldport. (Which is a scary drive in a car, in my opinion) The cost is $179, btw, and they provide bikes and prefer you don't use your own. You would have to request a scooter when you register for the class. team-oregon.org/I just wanted to clarify, that to ride unendorsed, the scoot "cannot be capable of speeds of more than 30 mph on level ground AND, if the moped’s power source is a combustion engine, it cannot be larger than 50 cc." (direct from page 1 of the DMV Motorcycle manual) If you have any questions about the Team Oregon class, just ask.
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