Post by keltex78 on May 6, 2013 9:32:01 GMT -5
Hey all, Just joined here as this board appears to be pretty active, and it looks like there's a lot of knowledge here to help me get my feet on the ground.
Since this is my first post, I'll bore you with all my personal details so you can get to know me a bit...
I live in Northeast Texas, Kilgore/Henderson/Longview area. I work in IT for a company with several nearby locations I support. I frequently have to travel between these sites, with trips ranging from 1 - 18 miles each way. On top of that, I currently have a 23-mile each-way commute to get to work. This commute is about 50% in-town, with the remaining on Farm Roads where my speed rarely climbs above 55mph. My current vehicle is a Nissan Titan Pickup, and the 70+mpg offered by these scooters is extremely tempting compared to the 17mpg I average in my truck. I get a milage reimbursement on my work-related travel. I've checked and found that insurance is extremely affordable on these scooters. I know parts are cheap, and easy to replace, so this sounds like a good opportunity to save money. I've already prepared a simple spreadsheet calculating fuel costs, and with my current milage and fuel expenses, a bike like this should pay for itself in less than a year.
My interest in scooters began when I had a discussion with another forum user regarding his Kymco Super8 150. I was intriqued by the thought of a $2500 scooter that would get 80mpg so I began researching further. I was a bit concerned about the top-end of the Super8 though, as it was stated to be around 55-60mph, meaning I would be wound out at WOT for a bit of my trip. I would prefer a motor that would handle the 55mph a bit easier, so I investigated Kymco's larger offerings, but found those to be too expensive to justify the purchase. This was also complicated by the fact that I don't have a Kymco dealer in my area (Just one, who only deals in ATVs) and I was hesitant to buy a Super8 without seeing one in person. That lead me to this forum, where I discovered that cheaper options were available.
I've read reviews, watched Youtube videos, and read here, and now I'm strongly leaning toward the Roketa 250cc Type 79, from SuperiorPowersports:
www.superiorpowersports.com/250cc_Gas_Scooter_p/rk250sc-79.htm
This bike has a lot going for it that I like; in no particular order:
1. 250cc motor: That gives me plenty of headroom to drive the bike at a 55-60mph without being at WOT for extended times, gives additional power for climbings hills, as well as allowing me to drive on the interstate (NO THANKS!!!) if needed.
2. Larger fairing and windshield: The minimal wind protection on the Super8 was a big concern to me as I would be driving the bike at 55mph a lot; I assume this one will be much more comfortable due to the added protection.
3. Trunk in addition to underseat storage: At times, I have to transport small amounts of hardware/tools/etc, so the trunk is a very nice feature which I think I would benefit from immensely!
4. The saddle: This bike look like it would be much more comfortable for a 30+minute work commute than the Super8. Maybe? I've never sat on one so I don't know for sure.
5. Larger fuel tank (?): This bike is said to have a 3+ gallon fuel tank, beating the Super8's 1.3 gallon tank, so less frequent fuel-ups.
6. Nearly $1000 cheaper than the Super8: The Roketa is currently $1599.
vs. the ~$2500 MSRP on the Kymco.
The only disadvantages I see are the smaller tires (13" vs the Super8's 14"), no local dealer, and the loss of the two-year warranty on the Kymco unit. Regarding warranty, I know that a warranty is basically non-existent, and am not intimidated by that fact. I'm mechanically inclined and already do all my own mechanical work, so I doubt that I'll be overwhelmed with a scooter. I read the full PDI process and that doesn't concern me; I'm the type who would do the majority of that on my own anyway.
Also, I've had some very close friends who were nearly killed in a bad motorcycle accident because they WEREN'T WEARING THEIR HELMETS(!!!). I tend to be cautious regarding such things and would definitely be purchasing/wearing a full-face helmet with the chin protection.
All that said, I do have a couple of questions for users here. As I said, my current vehicle is a full-sized Nissan Titan pickup. I would like to have the option to ramp a scooter into the back of my truck for transportation. I know the scooter would fit, but I am concerned that it may be too low to easily ramp. Can anyone comment on how difficult it is to transport these units? Also, What kind of storage space is available on the Roketa Type 79? I've had trouble finding good pics showing these features. Is their dash storage? And how big is the underseat storage on this unit? I've heard problems regarding the gas cap/tank on these units; should I count on replacing the gas cap immediately on receipt?
Since this is my first post, I'll bore you with all my personal details so you can get to know me a bit...
I live in Northeast Texas, Kilgore/Henderson/Longview area. I work in IT for a company with several nearby locations I support. I frequently have to travel between these sites, with trips ranging from 1 - 18 miles each way. On top of that, I currently have a 23-mile each-way commute to get to work. This commute is about 50% in-town, with the remaining on Farm Roads where my speed rarely climbs above 55mph. My current vehicle is a Nissan Titan Pickup, and the 70+mpg offered by these scooters is extremely tempting compared to the 17mpg I average in my truck. I get a milage reimbursement on my work-related travel. I've checked and found that insurance is extremely affordable on these scooters. I know parts are cheap, and easy to replace, so this sounds like a good opportunity to save money. I've already prepared a simple spreadsheet calculating fuel costs, and with my current milage and fuel expenses, a bike like this should pay for itself in less than a year.
My interest in scooters began when I had a discussion with another forum user regarding his Kymco Super8 150. I was intriqued by the thought of a $2500 scooter that would get 80mpg so I began researching further. I was a bit concerned about the top-end of the Super8 though, as it was stated to be around 55-60mph, meaning I would be wound out at WOT for a bit of my trip. I would prefer a motor that would handle the 55mph a bit easier, so I investigated Kymco's larger offerings, but found those to be too expensive to justify the purchase. This was also complicated by the fact that I don't have a Kymco dealer in my area (Just one, who only deals in ATVs) and I was hesitant to buy a Super8 without seeing one in person. That lead me to this forum, where I discovered that cheaper options were available.
I've read reviews, watched Youtube videos, and read here, and now I'm strongly leaning toward the Roketa 250cc Type 79, from SuperiorPowersports:
www.superiorpowersports.com/250cc_Gas_Scooter_p/rk250sc-79.htm
This bike has a lot going for it that I like; in no particular order:
1. 250cc motor: That gives me plenty of headroom to drive the bike at a 55-60mph without being at WOT for extended times, gives additional power for climbings hills, as well as allowing me to drive on the interstate (NO THANKS!!!) if needed.
2. Larger fairing and windshield: The minimal wind protection on the Super8 was a big concern to me as I would be driving the bike at 55mph a lot; I assume this one will be much more comfortable due to the added protection.
3. Trunk in addition to underseat storage: At times, I have to transport small amounts of hardware/tools/etc, so the trunk is a very nice feature which I think I would benefit from immensely!
4. The saddle: This bike look like it would be much more comfortable for a 30+minute work commute than the Super8. Maybe? I've never sat on one so I don't know for sure.
5. Larger fuel tank (?): This bike is said to have a 3+ gallon fuel tank, beating the Super8's 1.3 gallon tank, so less frequent fuel-ups.
6. Nearly $1000 cheaper than the Super8: The Roketa is currently $1599.
vs. the ~$2500 MSRP on the Kymco.The only disadvantages I see are the smaller tires (13" vs the Super8's 14"), no local dealer, and the loss of the two-year warranty on the Kymco unit. Regarding warranty, I know that a warranty is basically non-existent, and am not intimidated by that fact. I'm mechanically inclined and already do all my own mechanical work, so I doubt that I'll be overwhelmed with a scooter. I read the full PDI process and that doesn't concern me; I'm the type who would do the majority of that on my own anyway.
Also, I've had some very close friends who were nearly killed in a bad motorcycle accident because they WEREN'T WEARING THEIR HELMETS(!!!). I tend to be cautious regarding such things and would definitely be purchasing/wearing a full-face helmet with the chin protection.
All that said, I do have a couple of questions for users here. As I said, my current vehicle is a full-sized Nissan Titan pickup. I would like to have the option to ramp a scooter into the back of my truck for transportation. I know the scooter would fit, but I am concerned that it may be too low to easily ramp. Can anyone comment on how difficult it is to transport these units? Also, What kind of storage space is available on the Roketa Type 79? I've had trouble finding good pics showing these features. Is their dash storage? And how big is the underseat storage on this unit? I've heard problems regarding the gas cap/tank on these units; should I count on replacing the gas cap immediately on receipt?
and welcome to the forum!
-100mph+++ is all too common and THAT requires a crotch-rocket to stay with. HOWEVER, I have found that if you can run 70+mph and stay in the slow lanes, you are usually OK. My old 250 will cruise nicely at 70mph, and so far, THAT is enough. I ride about 70% in-town, and 30% freeway.