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Post by oldchopperguy on May 1, 2013 0:40:49 GMT -5
Well, riders...
It's all been said before, but after removing all the front plastics from "Lil' Bubba" to work on the brakes, I now have a totally new respect (or, more correctly, LACK of respect) for the complete absence of "weather-proofing" of the electrics on these Chinese scoots.
It's a miracle that I got away with spray-washing mine for 5 years before toasting my CDI.
I'm used to old-school over-the-road motorcycles that traditionally were sealed against weather, washing or whatever. Beneath all the plastics on the handlebar area of my scoot, resides a plethora of THE WORST quality plugs, connections, switches, etc. I have EVER seen.
The instrument panel lens just sits there with no sealing at all. The little nylon "plugs" with locking tabs are loose, crumbly, and the hooks don't lock at all. Everything is absolutely CRAP. If a direct shot from a spray-wash wand ever penetrated up under the plastics, the scooter would be out-of-service 4-evah...
The dashboard design depends TOTALLY on any water coming straight-down, and running over these AWFUL connections, and on out the bottom. I wouldn't even rate the electrics as suitable for "indoor light-duty" let alone outdoor, all-weather vehicle use.
Just gentle handling will sometimes break the connections. Many of the hookups are made of material not much more durable than graham-crackers. AND, there is NO effort made to seal any of them from moisture.
It's a real tribute to "Rube Goldberg" engineering that rain or gentle washing seems to run OVER the electrics and out, but any pressurized water shot up from BENEATH would penetrate EVERYTHING.
We've all been well-advised on the dangers of spray-washing Chinese scoots, but now that I've gotten "up-close and personal" with mine, I'm appalled at just how bad they really are. The fittings and plugs are every bit as awful as those fifty-cent Chinese flashlights found in the bottom-feeder dollar-stores.
I know third-world riders ford streams, ride through monsoons, etc. and apparently, it works because of the "stacking" design of the electrics and lenses which will repel water coming straight down. But these are DEFINITELY not suitable for spray-washing.
I'll still spray-wash the nasty parts like wheels/tires, engine bottom, etc. but never NEVER again will I let a spray squirt upward into the dash area, or the flywheel/stator, or under-seat electrics.
For a vehicle used as daily transportation, these designs are atrocious. WORSE than "unacceptable". They have NO waterproofing WHATSOEVER.
Just one more friendly warning from a guy who got away with spray-washing more than I deserved to.
Leo (wettin' and a wipin' the scoot) in Texas
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Post by mclovin on May 1, 2013 0:57:27 GMT -5
Thanks. I had no idea.
By the way, is there any chance of creating a "Fear the Panda" T-shirt in the future?
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Post by skuttadawg on May 1, 2013 1:12:30 GMT -5
You might want to get some non conductive gel like bulb grease to cover open connections . I have ridden a monsoon with no problems and washing is easy to do with no risk unless you have a Uni or K&N airfilter in which a plastic bag should cover it up prior to spraying water near it
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Post by mclovin on May 1, 2013 1:18:45 GMT -5
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Post by skuttadawg on May 1, 2013 1:31:35 GMT -5
Yes . Hank has mentioned a product he likes but I forgot the name of it . I like to put Vaseline on battery terminals since it prevents corrosion .
Only spray water down onto the scooter and no upwards from underneath nor use a pressure washer . A bucket and rag work fine with mild detergent . I often use Windex to give it a wipe since I keep mine clean more than most
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Post by mclovin on May 1, 2013 1:33:11 GMT -5
Yes . Hank has mentioned a product he likes but I forgot the name of it . I like to put Vaseline on battery terminals since it prevents corrosion . Only spray water down onto the scooter and no upwards from underneath nor use a pressure washer . A bucket and rag work fine with mild detergent . I often use Windex to give it a wipe since I keep mine clean more than most I recall Hank's daughter mentioning CorrosionX, or some such name.
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Post by skuttadawg on May 1, 2013 1:40:35 GMT -5
I think that is it
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Post by hank on May 1, 2013 9:54:44 GMT -5
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Post by chihuahuas on May 1, 2013 10:10:16 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on May 1, 2013 17:04:14 GMT -5
Theres no spot I cant reach with maguires quick detail and a rag. Never put a hose on it. No need to.
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Post by oldchopperguy on May 1, 2013 20:21:37 GMT -5
Thanks. I had no idea. By the way, is there any chance of creating a "Fear the Panda" T-shirt in the future? All the graphics I do, I assign the rights to Doug. He personally owns the copyrights. You should contact him for permission... He has an original clean jpeg of everything I do, so if it's OK by him, you could harvest a copy and take it to Wall Mart, or any place that does T-shirts from computer graphics or photos to make your shirt. Gotta love the ol' "Phat Panda"... LOL!Ride safe!Leo in Texas
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Post by oldchopperguy on May 1, 2013 20:27:47 GMT -5
You might want to get some non conductive gel like bulb grease to cover open connections . I have ridden a monsoon with no problems and washing is easy to do with no risk unless you have a Uni or K&N airfilter in which a plastic bag should cover it up prior to spraying water near it Definitely good advice! I did that wherever it was accessible. The potential for water getting where it shouldn't be is incredible with these... BUT... as you said, you can still ride them in a monsoon. So long as the water is coming DOWN the design seems to shed it without damage, but heaven help us if we somehow spray some water upward into the rabbit-hole... HeHeHe... Except for the nastiest greasy-dirt SAFE to spray areas, I'll be hand-washing from now on. I guess it's just one of those little "features" we have to live with to ride sub-thousand-buck scoots! Leo (keepin' it dry) in Texas
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Post by mclovin on May 2, 2013 1:18:15 GMT -5
Wow, Leo ... thanks. They're great designs.
I hereby ask Doug for permission and promise not to set up shop in Tijuana and rake in millions.
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Post by oldchopperguy on May 2, 2013 13:34:38 GMT -5
Wow, Leo ... thanks. They're great designs. I hereby ask Doug for permission and promise not to set up shop in Tijuana and rake in millions. Hmmm... Thanks for the compliments on my art, but I don't think the "Phat Panda" will ever generate the millions of items like the original, cigar-chomping Clay Smith Cams "Mr. Horsepower" woodpecker... LOL!I conceived "Phat Panda" late one night after looking at an original Mr. Horsepower decal, and then seeing a picture of Disney's "Kung-Fu Panda"... Hmmm... I figured "What a natural". Of course, there are not a couple million Chinese scooter-jockeys out there...Enjoy! Leo
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