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Post by tin23uk on Apr 18, 2013 7:31:53 GMT -5
hi, new here, just posted an intro, iv been lurking and reading posts for awhile but thought i would join given that i always have so many question.
anyways i have a taotao vip 50cc which is a little sluggish compaired to my 08 roketa so i figured i would buy a performance cdi from monster scooters, its my fault for not pulling the stock one and checking the connector but i ended up ordering the wrong one, mostly because it was the only one they had for a 50cc 4 stroke gy6. my scoot has 2 separate connectors one with 4 pins and one with two. the one i ordered has one slot but room for 6 pins with one left blank, so my question is where can i get one to fit my scoot? all of the others that look as though they may fit are all for higher cc engines. or alternatively should i change the connector currently on the scoot for one that would fit the new cdi and if so which wires go where and which is the one i should leave blank.
also i read once that cutting one of the wires would remove the rpm restiction, this was compounded by the fact that one of the pins in the performance cdi is a blank. i never like the ideas of cutting a wire especially when the part looks like its only going to cost around $30 but can someone confirm or deny if this would have the same affect as the performance cdi. my assumption was that the performance cdi would just remove the rpm restriction, does it do more than that?
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Post by millsc on Apr 18, 2013 8:12:57 GMT -5
Dont cut any wires the performance cdis don't do much anyways ive never seen a rev limited vip i have one also id put some lighter sliders weights in it first to increase performance or buy a orange cdi from scrappydogscooters.com
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Post by millsc on Apr 18, 2013 8:30:21 GMT -5
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Post by carasdad on Apr 18, 2013 8:37:35 GMT -5
What millsc said above!! A performance CDI really does nothing on a stock engine. But a tad lighter roller or slider weights will show almost miraculous improvement.  |
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Post by millsc on Apr 18, 2013 8:41:16 GMT -5
some of the performance cdi's actually make it worse, i only get them from scrappys now and tell all my customers the same and have had no issues since
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Post by carasdad on Apr 18, 2013 9:22:21 GMT -5
some of the performance cdi's actually make it worse, i only get them from scrappys now and tell all my customers the same and have had no issues since millsc...agreed Mr 4 Stroke guru! My wholesaler in China is a very honest man. He buys his blue aluminum finned "New Racing CDI" for 3 companies. One brand he is discontinuing has a linear 12 degree advance from idle to top end...there is no curve built into them. He says to me in an email. "Problem causing 12 degree constant advance make for difficulty in start of engine. Idling and up to 3/4 turn of acceleration handle timing is too soon, this cause detonate of ignition giving low power and possible engine damage. These I now selling off to other company in Beijing.They release them for purchase very cheap on Ebay,so customer not knowing what they buy on Ebay.Customer seeing them at lower cost than standard CDI buy them and have difficulties with proper running of engine. So I now sell just one brand which we have performed testing. We also received parts with stamp NCY, but not made in Taiwan and not true NCY.These such items we will not sale,but other business here in China do as such.That is reason we suggest at my company,that American parts and component dealers buy one of an item and test before sold many to customers" So millsc...right from a wholesaler himself! He knows many companies in China that even will sell a rejected item. He told me to look for an X or * stamp on an item....that means it does not meet standards and the materials must be reclaimed to make a new part.  So buyer beware!! |
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Post by tin23uk on Apr 18, 2013 9:40:16 GMT -5
cool thanks guys, ill try the lighter sliders and rollers then, any advice as to which ones and where from?
ill probably go ahead and order one of the orange CDI's too while im at it seeing as they cost less than the blue one i bought. if all else fails ill swap out everything from my higher mileage roketa, that thing is pretty zippy in traffic compaired to the slugish vip. its not much slower but still feels like a downgrade. just wish the roketa was faster uphill (havnt tried the vip uphill yet) i get 20mph uphill which is a little embarrasing lol.
another major annoyance with the vip is the speedometer its so far off of reality that i stopped looking at it but given that my top speed on gps so far has been around 32mph i dont think ill be getting any speeding tickets.
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Post by carasdad on Apr 18, 2013 9:45:45 GMT -5
cool thanks guys, ill try the lighter sliders and rollers then, any advice as to which ones and where from? ill probably go ahead and order one of the orange CDI's too while im at it seeing as they cost less than the blue one i bought. if all else fails ill swap out everything from my higher mileage roketa, that thing is pretty zippy in traffic compaired to the slugish vip. its not much slower but still feels like a downgrade. just wish the roketa was faster uphill (havnt tried the vip uphill yet) i get 20mph uphill which is a little embarrasing lol. another major annoyance with the vip is the speedometer its so far off of reality that i stopped looking at it but given that my top speed on gps so far has been around 32mph i dont think ill be getting any speeding tickets. Can't tell ya weight rollers or sliders to try....until we know what your current ones weigh...so find out. if ya have no scale..the Post Office will weigh them for free...you just gotta tell them you need the weight in grams..  |
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Post by millsc on Apr 18, 2013 10:19:35 GMT -5
get 16x13 dr pulley sliders at partsforscooters.com i put 5 gram sliders in stock scoots if the person weighs over 170 pounds and 6 grams if they are lighter than 170
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Post by carasdad on Apr 18, 2013 10:22:04 GMT -5
get 16x13 dr pulley sliders at partsforscooters.com i put 5 gram sliders in stock scoots if the person weighs over 170 pounds and 6 grams if they are lighter than 170 I put 5 gram sliders in for folks 150lbs or less...then chuckle when they come back white knuckled with bugs in there teeth..lol |
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Post by tin23uk on Apr 18, 2013 10:22:33 GMT -5
im 6'4" 220lbs so 5 grams it it ha ha ha
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