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Post by prodigit on Apr 15, 2013 9:10:15 GMT -5
So I read that lane splitting (a thing I'd not do, because it's dangerous), is not the same as filtering (basically lane splitting in stopped traffic). Quite often the law sees filtering as lane splitting, so if lane splitting is illegal in your state (which it is), then filtering is too; which I think is ridiculous! Filtering can easily be done by a bicycle, or scooter; without any risk; while lane splitting, done by some idiots, can be a lot more dangerous. I wish they would legalize filtering. It's THE reason I have a scoot. And the cops are jerks towards anyone doing filtering, while they themselves sometimes just run their sirenes, and go through traffic, without any reason, other than wanting to get through the traffic faster! Anyway, cops are jerks in Miami, nearly all of them! So, Anyway again, Filtering, should it be allowed? What do you think?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 15, 2013 15:54:24 GMT -5
Filtering?
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Post by CopperDeer on Apr 15, 2013 17:04:51 GMT -5
Sounds good to me. Don't know if this is a workaround / legitimate loophole but if there is a shoulder I usually go around cars to the right. I mean, they're probably going to pass me after the light anyways, why wait behind them...
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Post by superscootsuperman on Apr 15, 2013 19:13:42 GMT -5
It's my understanding that lane splitting and filtering are essentially one in the same. Splitting can be done when traffic is moving, also. But "filtering" is also splitting lanes. You can also filter when traffic is moving. This involves moving forward in and out of lanes to get through traffic. I don't quite understand the reasoning that so called filtering is safer because traffic is not moving? Most of the danger of splitting when traffic is moving comes from the rider / bike, not the cage being passed. When splitting moving traffic imo you are very unlikely to get swiped or hit at the side as traffic is tight enough that cages are blocked in by one another, and they know it. So, you just ride between them in your own little lane. It's up to the rider to maintain the lane for as long as they are splitting What is NOT safe is so called "lane sharing." This is when a rider or cage just rides alongside another vehicle in the same lane for a shorter or longer extended period without making a move to pass, or pass quickly enough. For obvious reasons this can be bad But splitting moving traffic? Just ride straight and adjust as necessary. Watch for gaps as cars like to make quick moves into them, and pass traffic and be happy. It also helps for when cars do get close, or you get close to cars in other situations. And we realize a "close call" really isn't close at all. Avoiding impact no matter how close is the only thing that matters. Be it two inches or two yards a miss is a miss. And on a bike a two inch miss is a very good thing, indeed. Just as well as two yards imo. So that makes lane splitting more reasonable for some
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Post by domindart on Apr 15, 2013 19:43:57 GMT -5
I filtered today and got a nasty bi&ch yelling at me through her car window as she passed by.. people in GA are dumb.. I knew that would happen if I started to try to filter a little .
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Post by prodigit on Apr 15, 2013 20:07:08 GMT -5
Cagers have no problem ramming scootards off the road, but hate it, when stopped at a traffic light, and the scoot just zooms by. Cops hate it too.. I hate Miami cops..They should all go to a correction facility! Most of them are rotting in their positions, and need to be fired if you ask me!
Then they'll learn to be nicer to the ordinary person!
It's a damn shame that they scream and treat people like criminals for minor offences, while the guys stealing, and robbing places are allowed to go free (and no investigation is being done to them). When they get lucky they bust a guy, but most of the time, they don't want to do the big jobs, but want to be the big man, in front of the ordinary guy, who is really not making any offense to anyone but them!
Out of my 4 encounters with the police, 3 of them where really bad, meaning, they are really bad at their jobs, and cause more harm than good! Out of my 1 experience with a state trooper, I had 1 positive experience! Almost like the state trooper was a human, while cops aren't!
Only a couple of cops doing security work in stores seem to be alright. But the so called 'law enforcement' often abuses the law towards regular people!
Hate them, hope this comes in the news, and many cops may get fired, or go back to school!
Some are friendly, but most are not in Miami Beach!
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Post by domindart on Apr 15, 2013 20:20:56 GMT -5
On a lighter note, Miami Beach must be a great place to scoot..?
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Post by prodigit on Apr 16, 2013 0:01:40 GMT -5
It is! Lots of overpriced scoot rentals here, I laugh at them, as I zip by with my own, faster, ATM50; that costs me just $4 per afternoon on riding!
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Post by ramblinman on Apr 16, 2013 2:50:38 GMT -5
legalize? probably a bad idea...
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Post by domindart on Apr 16, 2013 3:27:42 GMT -5
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Post by SylvreKat on Apr 16, 2013 22:22:56 GMT -5
[replyingto=ramblinman]ramblinman[/replyingto]OMG, ramblin, that's crazy! Where was that taken?
Looking at that pic, I change my mind. I don't want to filter now, either. Not in *that* crowd of craziness-on-green! Scoots and cycles all going at once like the start of a motocross race.
Too rich for this timid lil' 'Kat!
>'Kat
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Post by SylvreKat on Apr 16, 2013 22:26:10 GMT -5
Just looked closer at that pic. Three things struck me--
1) They really ARE almost all scooters, aren't they? 2) Almost everyone is wearing a helmet. 3) Love the hot-pink car on the left!
>'Kat, willing to filter if she's just about the only one at the intersection doing it (so, I'm selfish. Sue me ;D )
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Post by ramblinman on Apr 24, 2013 11:20:18 GMT -5
OMG, ramblin, that's crazy! Where was that taken? sry, just now saw this post. that photo was taken in Bangkok. fearless riders... i'd try to find a side street, too crazy for me. edit: is it possible to view all new posts since last log-in? i always click new topics but it only shows so many. that is why i missed your post.
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Post by urbanmadness on Apr 24, 2013 11:29:36 GMT -5
Lane splitting is legal here in California... In stop and go traffic the thinking is, that if you filter to the front of the line at a light, the likely hood of getting rear ended and smashed between two cars is less likely. There is even a law here, making it against the law to block someone splitting lanes.
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Post by hank on Apr 24, 2013 11:31:27 GMT -5
Hi In CT The operator of a motorcycle shall not (1) overtake and pass, in the same single traffic lane occupied by such motorcycle, any motor vehicle other than a motorcycle or (2) operate a motorcycle between lanes of traffic With that said i never lane split of filter, im not in a rush when out riding Im out to enjoy the ride Take care and ride safely dear friend Yours Hank
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