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Post by scootex on Apr 22, 2013 11:21:05 GMT -5
Ride around town and when you see a cruiser, stop and ask if he has radar. If he does ask him to check your top speed to verify your speedo. Here in Texas they'll gladly do it.
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Post by carasdad on Apr 22, 2013 12:07:29 GMT -5
A radar detector is nice. Got mine from Ebay from China.(Yes the Chinese thing really does work) It was under $20.00 shipped...the size of a pack of smokes and is mounted under my front cowl.It covers all bands and is works out to 1,000 yards! I even tested it. But problems are...you can't hear the 'beep beep' as it's under the cowl..plus engine and road noise. So I wired an LED to the speaker wires..drilled a small hole and silicone glued it into my speedo area. Fixed that..works well. I live in a small town and they stop scoots all the time...for no probable cause.Ask what their probable cause was and they say "I don't need one..you watch too much tv." Anyway all the roads around me are country roads and nothing but farmland. We have a bad problem with Meth Labs out here..so the State boys patrol the back roads heavily. There is very little traffic and therefore I am often the only one on the road or within those 1,000 yards range of the detector... So if his radar goes off..well they know it is me. (only happened once and all he said was."If you are going to go 50mph,please wear a helmet".. so I got lucky. In bigger towns...the city..or heavily traveled roads they would be effective. But I keep in my head if I am ever stopped for violating Michigan's 30mph Moped/Scooter law..I am wrong and they are right...AND for the first time ever...they will actually have a 'probable cause' www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Band-Car-Radar-Detectors-Voice-for-GPS-Navigator-A380-HOT-BE0D-/130760677259?pt=US_Radar_Laser_Detectors&hash=item1e71f1978b
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Post by DaveC on Apr 22, 2013 12:18:03 GMT -5
A radar detector is nice. Got mine from Ebay from China.(Yes the Chinese thing really does work) It was under $20.00 shipped...the size of a pack of smokes and is mounted under my front cowl.It covers all bands and is works out to 1,000 yards! I even tested it. But problems are...you can't hear the 'beep beep' as it's under the cowl..plus engine and road noise. So I wired an LED to the speaker wires..drilled a small hole and silicone glued it into my speedo area. Fixed that..works well. I live in a small town and they stop scoots all the time...for no probable cause.Ask what their probable cause was and they say "I don't need one..you watch too much tv." Anyway all the roads around me are country roads and nothing but farmland. We have a bad problem with Meth Labs out here..so the State boys patrol the back roads heavily. There is very little traffic and therefore I am often the only one on the road or within those 1,000 yards range of the detector... So if his radar goes off..well they know it is me. (only happened once and all he said was."If you are going to go 50mph,please wear a helmet".. so I got lucky. In bigger towns...the city..or heavily traveled roads they would be effective. But I keep in my head if I am ever stopped for violating Michigan's 30mph Moped/Scooter law..I am wrong and they are right...AND for the first time ever...they will actually have a 'probable cause' www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Band-Car-Radar-Detectors-Voice-for-GPS-Navigator-A380-HOT-BE0D-/130760677259?pt=US_Radar_Laser_Detectors&hash=item1e71f1978bMy only question is, By the time the radar detector detects the radar, the cop has already 'radar'ed ya. Meaning he's already got your speed by the time the detector detects......never mind You know what I mean.
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Post by carasdad on Apr 22, 2013 12:35:01 GMT -5
A radar detector is nice. Got mine from Ebay from China.(Yes the Chinese thing really does work) It was under $20.00 shipped...the size of a pack of smokes and is mounted under my front cowl.It covers all bands and is works out to 1,000 yards! I even tested it. But problems are...you can't hear the 'beep beep' as it's under the cowl..plus engine and road noise. So I wired an LED to the speaker wires..drilled a small hole and silicone glued it into my speedo area. Fixed that..works well. I live in a small town and they stop scoots all the time...for no probable cause.Ask what their probable cause was and they say "I don't need one..you watch too much tv." Anyway all the roads around me are country roads and nothing but farmland. We have a bad problem with Meth Labs out here..so the State boys patrol the back roads heavily. There is very little traffic and therefore I am often the only one on the road or within those 1,000 yards range of the detector... So if his radar goes off..well they know it is me. (only happened once and all he said was."If you are going to go 50mph,please wear a helmet".. so I got lucky. In bigger towns...the city..or heavily traveled roads they would be effective. But I keep in my head if I am ever stopped for violating Michigan's 30mph Moped/Scooter law..I am wrong and they are right...AND for the first time ever...they will actually have a 'probable cause' www.ebay.com/itm/Full-Band-Car-Radar-Detectors-Voice-for-GPS-Navigator-A380-HOT-BE0D-/130760677259?pt=US_Radar_Laser_Detectors&hash=item1e71f1978bMy only question is, By the time the radar detector detects the radar, the cop has already 'radar'ed ya. Meaning he's already got your speed by the time the detector detects......never mind You know what I mean. Exactly!! Since I am typically the only vehicle on these back roads.. In a more populated area it would be more difficult for him. But when I am the only one out there..well..gee it has to be me going that fast. The one Officer did tell me..when he sees a scoot going that fast..he assumes it's a plated and insured 150cc or more according to the speed of travel...vice a 50cc decal only required scooter. It isn't until he passes them and looks back to see if it has a plate or decal...that he can tell. But he was more concerned about my not wearing a helmet at that speed...rather than speeding. My LED lit up while he was just a speck on the horizon..but as you said..by then he had already got me.
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Post by triker on Apr 22, 2013 13:04:40 GMT -5
I quit using radar detectors a long time ago. Since the advent of instant on radar. I switched to a radar jammer, I have two. Quit using them also when they came out with ka band. I also have a laser jammer I no longer use.
Roy
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Post by hank on Apr 22, 2013 13:21:08 GMT -5
I quit using radar detectors a long time ago. Since the advent of instant on radar. I switched to a radar jammer, I have two. Quit using them also when they came out with ka band. I also have a laser jammer I no longer use. Roy Hi Roy Those are highly illegal glad to see you stopped using them States Where Radar Jammers and Laser Jammers Are Illegal In the United States, radar jammers are illegal under federal law. Using a radar jammer could lead to you being charged with a felony, fined, and sent to jail in every single state. Laser jammers, on the other hand, aren't specifically banned. Radar jammers get jammed up with FCC regulations because they send out unregulated radio waves, but laser jammers don't cause nearly the same disruption to police equipment because they emit only a beam of light. Sounds like a technicality? It is. Laser jammers haven't yet been banned by federal law but there are several states which have rallied against its use. The following states have laws in place against the use or ownership of a laser jammer: ¡California ¡Colorado ¡Illinois ¡Minnesota ¡Nebraska ¡Oklahoma ¡South Carolina ¡Tennessee ¡Texas ¡Utah ¡Virginia ¡Washington D.C. Take care and ride safely my friend Yours Hank
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Post by triker on Apr 23, 2013 2:27:35 GMT -5
The FCC regulates radio signals, and since light is not a radio signal the FCC cannot regulate lasers or laser jammers. Lasers are regulated by the DHHS and they currently do not regulate laser jammers, because they are not actually a laser and are not a health risk. Laser jammers emit a powerful steady infrared light, causing the laser gun to not be able to detect the pulses of the laser. However state laws may vary and they are illegal in several states. In Missouri laser jammers are still legal.
Roy
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Post by carasdad on Apr 23, 2013 8:58:11 GMT -5
Another thing you can do.... Is ask to see the radar gun or dash mounted device...it stores the info. My brother has done that twice..the Officer got pissed..said no...and let him off on a warning. So now...if you are guilty of something..by law you are covered under your 5th Amendment and allowed to see any evidence. If he won't show you something is up. i.e. lying to you. The one time the State fella stooped me for going 52..I asked and he showed me. he was the one I mentioned in a previous post that asked if I was gonna ride that fast...to wear a helmet. Told me it was safer that we be able to not be going 30 when traffic on those back roads id 55 and most cars run down them at 60+. But warned me that his Comrades did not see it that way..so be careful as they stick to the 30mph law. I knew I was going 52 as my speedo will GPS at only about 1mph off.One advantage to the big wide n tall 12" tires I have is that it puts our speedo somehwere close to reality and accuracy. But again..ask to see the Radar unit. By law he must show you any evidence per the 5th Amendment which says we cannot be implicated without evidence. Up until the point you are shown the evidence it your word against his. If you take it to court remind the Judge about the 5th and ask to see the evidence. If the Officer refuses to show you and gets angry...it's quite obvious you just called his lying out. My cousin is a Trucker and he has used this in court many times...mentioned he was not shown...the device stores the info and he would like to be shown that evidence. However 5 times of being stopped...only once was it dropped because he was not shown evidence. The other 4 he was implicated by word of mouth. Sad part is I have been on many runs with him. We ran Cherries or Blueberries to Boston..and brought back loads of Cod Fish. We were stopped quite a few times for nothing..as they looked for something. I was confused each time...but my cousin said.."Dude this happens all the time...for some reason the Highway Patrol hates us Truckers" which to me seemed plausible as they had no probable cause...and found nothing wrong. Told him.."I'm gonna let ya go..be safe out there." and similar things. Let him go? From what offense?? I shouted out the window like the angry dipshit I was.... He just turned off his lights and drove off. So ya never know what is gonna happen during a stop. But do know one thing...you have the RIGHT to see evidence according to the 5th Amendment. NOT BASHING LAW ENFORCEMENT..let me make that clear. But they are there to uphold the Constitution yet few even know any of the Articles.One example..gf was stopped for not making a complete stop at a sign. We were told to get out of the car..she was patted down and car was searched. Just outta the blue I said.."Sir why are you searching the car without permission or a warrant..that violates her 3rd Amendment(which as you know is NOT about illegal search and seizure) he said..no joke..."Under her 3rd Amendment I do have the right if I suspect Illegal activity or contraband" gave me a good laugh inside..thinking how you enforce the law when ya don't know what it is...
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