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Post by zgr7 on Apr 3, 2013 7:35:02 GMT -5
There was a sound coming from my scooter. I thought it was coming from the CVT side but later found out that it was the dashboard side of the speedometer cable o_P. I had to grease it. Afterwards the sound was gone.
Telling you this because sometimes the sounds may not come from the place that you think they do. Happens all the time with bicycles for example, especially the pedal area.
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Post by zgr7 on Apr 3, 2013 7:15:11 GMT -5
Hi chihuahuas,
Thanks for the message. That diagram is for Kymco Super 8. I have the Agility version myself. They look similar but i don't have a problem with wiring anyway.
I know i have a drainage problem because after 5 days of riding with the bixenon, there wasn't enough juice left in the battery for the starter motor. I had to kickstart the scooter. This is without any leakage (exluding battery's own drainage. It loses like 0.10 volts during a nighttime which is normal)
If you parallel the poles of the battery with the multimeter, it gives accurate info. How else you gonna know about the reading otherwise? I've also ordered a small voltmeter just for this purpose. I was planning to attach it onto the dashboard to constantly check for the voltage rating of the battery. Didn't do it yet tho'.
As i've said in my first post, voltage starts dropping (slowly but it drops nevertheless) when bixenon is turned on. If i activate turn signal, hit my brakes and push horn button as well, then it drops rapidly and dramatically. It's just not THAT easy to swap a tail light with a led. The default halogen lamps run on AC. During idle, lights are dimmed, only after you rev the engine they become brighter. The bixenon system is DC. It draws a constant current of something like 4-4.5a from the battery (starts higher, then normalizes at that). The alternator can't put this back in time, resulting with a battery drainage. I mean, this is why many people go with the 11 pole stator-7 cable rectifier model, don't they? There are many threads about this on internet, about low cc scooters which can't keep up with the added load of the bixenons and such.
So i have two options here. Find a stator that can fit into this Kymco system -because it doesn't look like the default gy6 model-, or go back to the original halogen setup :/ Bixenon's lighting and visibility are very good so i'd prefer them over halogens anyday.
Just need a stator that will fit into this flywheel grr :\
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Post by zgr7 on Apr 3, 2013 5:43:02 GMT -5
Mr. John thanks for the help but those two measures aren't my concern. They seem ok. The not ok part is this: This is 9mm on my stock 8 pole stator. A thicker plate sizing won't let me fit the stator onto the stock flywheel as i've explained on top. :/
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Post by zgr7 on Apr 2, 2013 21:08:20 GMT -5
what are the measurements of the stock stator . by the way when Alley said John he ment tvnacman me . I'm pretty sure that the 11pole stator will fit . We just need to compair measurements . John Oups sorry about that (: The measurements are: Diameter of inner circle: 29mm Distance between the two screw holes: 41mm Depth of the metal plates: 9mm Outer diameter: 88mm
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Post by zgr7 on Apr 2, 2013 20:50:59 GMT -5
Thank you for the fast replies wow I'll wait for Mr. John then. In the meantime let me explain the issue further with a few photos. This is the 11 pole stator that i've got from a local shop. I got this for testing purposes and it was a rushy purchase to be honest. I hadn't measured the stuff well beforehand. The plates' depth(thickness?) is 16mm. The stock, 8 pole stator's is around 9mm. I don't have the flywheel near me so couldn't take a photo of it but found this photo from ebay. It's the exact same thing that i have: The thickness difference on the shaft of the flywheel makes it impossible for me to fit the 11 pole stator. When i put the 8 pole default stator into the flywheel, it floats. Only after if i push the 8 pole unit towards the flywheel, then they hit each other. When i put the 11 pole stator into the flywheel, as soon as the magnets pull the poles, the base of the plate and the shaft base conflict. Because of this i can't mount them together. I thought about changing the flywheel. I saw some flywheels on the internet but their pickup magnets were at degree with the upright mounting position. The Kymco flywheel pickup magnet is at a lesser degree. Also got this from another forum: Changing the pickup magnet position is bad for the engine that's what i know. I can't just randomly get a flywheel to work around this. In a perfect world i'd like to grab 11 pole 3 phase stator that has the same measurements of my 8 pole, put it on and bingo, but it doesn't look like it will be this easy, sadly :/ Tvnacman, thank you for the link. I'm looking into it. But the plate depth doesn't look very promising from those pictures. I'll wait for Mr. John i guess (: (btw the laughing smiley gives the impression as if i'm joking about something. wish it was something simplier than that (: )
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Post by zgr7 on Apr 2, 2013 19:28:35 GMT -5
Greetings,
I'm in need of some assistance. I hope this is the right place to ask about this. I've been searching all over the internet to find a solution. Many results directed me to your other? site. Many discussions there, which i've read almost all of them but none was a direct fix for me. I hope this won't bother you much.
My scooter's default 35watt halogen light was very weak so i ordered a 35 watt bi-xenon kit from ebay and installed it myself. After the unit blew off the 7A fuse on the red battery wire on my scooter, i swapped the battery with a 12v 10a, and all 7a fuses with 10a as well. Since then the bi-xenon was working nicely but now i have the battery drainage problem :/
By default, Kymco Agility 125 has a 8 pole stator. With this stator, if i turn the bi-xenon on (in high beam(cutoff in down position)) + the angel eye leds, the voltage on my battery during idle goes like this: 14.04 volt -> 7 secs later -> 14.03 volt -> 8-9 secs later -> 14.02 volt and etc.. If i rev up a little bit it seems as if it's holding up fine but this is without no brake lights, no horn in use, no signals, nothing. Only bi-xenon is on. When i turn the light off, the voltage goes like 14.00 > 14.15 > 14.24 > 14.39 up to 15 immediately and rectifier cuts it there.
Obviously the stator can't keep up with this added load to the system, unless i messed up some wiring myself, which i'm %99.9 positive that i didn't. I wired the unit in a custom way-ish. I'm using a custom switch to turn on the bi-xenon. I also removed the normal cables from the left side light controls and wired them again customly to work with the cutoff mechanism of the bixenon kit.
Anyway. What i really need, i think, is a direct stator and rectifier upgrade. I've already purchased a 7 cable rectifier, as was told by many on the internet. The setup to aim seems to be 7 cable rectifier and 11 pole 3 phase stator. And there's my problem. I've already purchased a 11 pole stator but it doesn't fit into my flywheel.
The dimensions for the stock stator on Kymco Agility 125 are: Diameter of inner circle: 29mm Distance between the two screw holes: 41mm Depth of the metal plates: 9mm Outer diameter: 88mm
The problem was the depth of the metal plates. The 11 pole stator that i got had a 16mm thickness of metal plates. When i install it onto the motor, the base of the shaft of the flywheel hits the stator. I saw different kinds of 11 pole stators over the internet but there's almost no info about the dimensions of the units so i can't judge if it will fit into my scooter or not.
The 11 pole stator that i got was from a motorcycle shop over here but it was the only model they had. I bought it for testing purposes.
I really want to convert my lights to bi-xenon. I have spare halogen housing with spare 8 pole stator and rectifier. Returning back to the default system is easy to me but i'll keep them as a last resort. If there's anyone out there that did this conversion with their Kymco Agility 125, please share your insights with me.
TLDR:Looking for a 11 pole 3 phase stator that will fit into Kymco Agility 125.
I'll be checking the forum constantly. I hope someone can help me with this issue. Thanks in advance.
Regards
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