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Post by 4950cycle on Sept 2, 2016 0:33:59 GMT -5
I wish I understood what Ihumppolocks said. Sounds like he may have found a way around the problem.
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Post by 4950cycle on Sept 1, 2016 0:53:30 GMT -5
Took me a while to get the scoot running good . No sense in worrying about sliders and rollers if the engine isn't even running good. Had to adjust valves and drill a vacuum fitting out that was restricted I believe. I did something right because it runs right again. Anyway, I have the variator cover off and the the variator marked real good. It doe's seem to have a weak spring on the clutch to. I can move it in and out fairly easy. Should it be like that ? A stronger spring would give me real good take off and low speed power. But I don't want it to keep my variator from letting my belt go all the way out either at top speed. But one thing at a time. First the variator check. Read more: scooterdoc.proboards.com/thread/13015/gram-sliders-linhia-257cc-260#ixzz4IyRILlsc
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Post by 4950cycle on Sept 1, 2016 0:47:50 GMT -5
Now that's interesting to me. Ya got my attention ! And yes I do burn regular at least half the time Rock. Not now. And I never heard about that Yamaha valve rule you mentioned
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Post by 4950cycle on Aug 30, 2016 20:28:14 GMT -5
Good to here somebody had some sense for a change when designing the Vespa Rockynv. BTW, The Linhia manual says 0.08mm-0.10mm intake valve clearance, 0.16mm-0.20mm for exhaust valve clearance. Translation for us Yanks is .003 inch -.004 intake , .006 -.008 inch for Exhaust . No wonder us Linhai engine driven scooter guys and gals have to adjust our exhaust valves so often. The typical valve clearance specified by your friendly neighborhood scooter mechanic is .005 - .006 of an inch. for the exhaust. Couple that with the inferior valve seats that recede as miles go by and you have to adjust the exhaust valve sometimes every 500-1500 miles. That is " WAY TO MUCH WORK " To have the privilege of riding a scooter around. Especially with all the body work that needs to be removed to do it. So turns out it is perfectly OK the adjust your exhaust valve out to .008 inch clearance. This should maybe double your ride time before it starts stalling at stops needing the valves adjusted again. PS I have a JCL MP 250 A just like a Roketa-54 (Linhai engine) scooter and I have made removable access panels so I don't have to take my whole scooter apart to adjust my valves. Just turned a 2 day job into an hour and a half. Working on and off of course on the 2 day thing. Best thing I ever did !
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Post by 4950cycle on Aug 30, 2016 1:09:57 GMT -5
While I'm waiting for my fuel pump I'm making a trap door to get to my intake valve easy. I made one years ago to get to the exhaust valve. These Linhia's with receding valve seats (exhaust valve mainly) need valve adjustments often. And since the engine lays down the exhaust valve is accessible from the belly and the intake has to be accessible from under the seat. If you don't make these access doors or holes you would have to take off all the body work just to get to the top and bottom of the cylinder head to adjust the valves. The trick is to make these mods as invisible as possible. We wouldn't want to louse up the beautiful lines of a Reflex clone would we . And yes I am on the correct vac port fitting. But now that you mention it the vac power is on the weak side. I touched the hose to my tounge.
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Post by 4950cycle on Aug 30, 2016 1:04:09 GMT -5
While I'm waiting for my fuel pump I'm making a trap door to get to my intake valve easy. I made one years ago to get to the exhaust valve. These Linhia's with receding valve seats (exhaust valve mainly) need valve adjustments often. And since the engine lays down the exhaust valve is accessible from the belly and the intake has to be accessible from under the seat. If you don't make these access doors or holes you would have to take off all the body work just to get to the top and bottom of the cylinder head to adjust the valves. The trick is to make these mods as invisible as possible. We wouldn't want to louse up the beautiful lines of a Reflex clone would we .
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Post by 4950cycle on Aug 29, 2016 0:58:41 GMT -5
My first problem was my main jet fell out in the bottom of the float bowl, Holy crap I feel like a total YO Yo. I guess in all the junk I was screwing with that day I forgot to torque the 115 main jet I moved from the new 32 mm carb (trying to get it working) back to the old 30mm carb. Anyway, I got it running good again except for my float bowl running empty often. Seems this fuel pump I bought off Ebay just isn't enough. I will return it. I don't want to go electric fuel pump like a lot of 250 and up guys do. I got another Vacuum Jin Bo Chinese fuel pump on the way. Hey, The last one lasted almost 8 years before it quit. That's good enough for me. It is somewhat equivalent to a Mikuni DF 52-21-D fuel pump. But under half the price. I'd like to adjust my valves and pull my cover and mark my variator while I'm waiting for my Fuel pump Read more: scooterrebels.proboards.com/thread/2676/miles-hour-257-linhai-jcl#ixzz4IgvWXpdw
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Post by 4950cycle on Aug 29, 2016 0:50:45 GMT -5
I thought you said this 32 mm carb wasn't going to work ? Now I take it off and go back to stock carb, stock 115 main jet now you tell me I should have experimented with the 32mm carb. After you said that I didn't want to waste my time trying to tweak something that wouldn't tweak. And I am still having a hard time trying to find a vacuum fuel pump that will pump sufficient fuel. My float bowl keeps running empty. I finally got a Chinese Jin Bo brand vacuum fuel pump just like the one that just lasted 7 + yrs. on it. Ordered it on Ebay tonight.
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Post by 4950cycle on Aug 26, 2016 0:44:42 GMT -5
Finally got my old carb back together and got it back in my JCL 257cc. "THEN" I leave the driveway on a test run and something gets sucked up in the main jet I figure . Blasted up the small hill from my driveway entrance. Ran great for 200 + yards got to the top of the hill and started starving and sputtering. All I can figure is the WOT up the hill sucked a piece of debris right up against the bottom of the main jet I guess. I'm starting to get a complex here. Someone doesn't want me to ride I'm starting to think ? I can't get a block down the road without something lousing up on this otherwise good running scoot. Read more: scooterrebels.proboards.com/thread/2676/miles-hour-257-linhai-jcl#ixzz4IPGhinjD
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Post by 4950cycle on Aug 24, 2016 23:13:30 GMT -5
I went to put on my old carb on today to get ready to do the variator test. What a BEACH working through that hole underneath the seat. Especially when I'm not using pod air filter (K&N style). When I finally get it in there and all hooked up I try to start it. Gas started coming out of the overflow tube as fast as the fuel pump would pump it. I guess all that wresting with the carb somehow got the float stuck inside the float bowl is all I could figure. Tomorrow's another day Read more: scooterdoc.proboards.com/thread/13008/mph-more-top-speed-mp250a#ixzz4IJVfHYMq
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Post by 4950cycle on Aug 23, 2016 1:00:10 GMT -5
I feel I should cap this 32 mm carb fiasco off with this. Get this, After all this I put my 115 main out of my old Jap 30 mm carb in the new 32 mm , New carb ran great then ! But no better readings from the tach and speedo than my old carb. I think it had a sleight edge on my old carb in the mid range. But not enough difference to change much. So what that means is if they will take this 32 mm back I want a refund. And the old Jap 30 mm goes right back on with no more than one jet size higher or lower than stock. , It might even run the best with this 115 main jet it came with
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Post by 4950cycle on Aug 23, 2016 0:56:24 GMT -5
I feel I should cap this 32 mm carb fiasco off with this. Get this, After all this I put my 115 main out of my old Jap 30 mm carb in the new 32 mm , New carb ran great then ! But no better readings from the tach and speedo than my old carb. I think it had a sleight edge on my old carb in the mid range. But not enough difference to change much. So what that means is if they will take this 32 mm back I want a refund. And the old Jap 30 mm goes right back on with no more than one jet size higher or lower than stock. , It might even run the best with this 115 main jet it came with. Now off to the slider subject I guess .
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Post by 4950cycle on Aug 22, 2016 12:11:32 GMT -5
Linhia 257cc , Screwed it up by putting a 32 mm so called performance carb on it. DON'T DO IT ! Stay stock carb and rejet on this particular motor I say. And I was told BTW
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Post by 4950cycle on Aug 22, 2016 11:32:07 GMT -5
Aug 9 2016 at 6:10pm jct842 said: First thing I would look at is the rpm at the top speed you get now. Depending on if it is wound out or not to decide on what weights you have and what you need to go to. If you don't have a tach get one on there. If you are a whole lot under red line you need to go lighter in weights which is what I would suspect. Doubt if you will be happy with a larger carb with out doing other mods to go with it. Jetting is usually all that is needed. Folks, Take jct842's post to heart ! And do not buy a 32mm (BS) more like 31mm racing carb they call it. The one I got has at least a 125 main jet which is way to big unless you are gonna mod the rest of the breathing system and maybe even port and cam it. Just do what he says. Don't be a Hard head like me. Read more: scooterdoc.proboards.com/thread/13015/gram-sliders-linhia-257cc-260#ixzz4I4zAryxk
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Post by 4950cycle on Aug 21, 2016 22:54:26 GMT -5
Rock, Clean new carb, Adjusted valves. As far as recardoguitars , New carb only 1 mm bigger. Very , Very little difference in size actually. Not enough difference to need anything different to function properly I wouldn't think. Pretty much a big waste of my $ and time. Should just stay with my higher quality stock carb . Thanks for the input though. PS the cable adjustment thing has happened to me before , keeping me from WOT
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