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Lol, that's cool I have "sausage finger" moments occasionally myself!



Lol. I remember a quote from somewhere, that said something along the lines of, "The only way to make car drivers drive more responsibly is to put a ten inch steel spike in the centre of every steering wheel".

Like we both said earlier, even the best kit won't protect you from everything, so there's still enough of a threat of death to make most riders ride responsibly (unless they've got one of those airbag suits I think Honda were developing-I'd get one, but knowing my luck it'd go off on its own and I'd end up riding home looking like the Michelin Man lol).

I'll leave you with an anecdote from all of two weeks ago. I was just getting geared up after work to ride home when one of the team leaders came in to drop some stuff off for his locker, having been out on his "proper" bike all day with friends. One of the group was "pulled out on" (you know when a cager just pulls out of a side street without looking-I'm sure we've all experienced that) and didn't have a hope in of stopping in time. The sports bike was a total right off (it'd just tried to go through a Volvo after all) and the rider had to decelerate from 60mph (a speed easily achievable on my 125 scoot), using nothing but the roof of the car, the road, and his kit. He walked away with a broken collar bone and a broken wrist. There's no way the OP of this thread, in jeans and a T-shirt would be out of hospital by now in a similar situation, if he wasn't killed outright. Ironically, the guy was the only one of the group wearing a hi-viz vest over his kit. So it just goes to show, it doesn't matter how well you ride, or what you're wearing, there'll always be that one idiot that tries to kill you and you can only hope you're wearing enough protection when he/she does.

I've really enjoyed this debate (even if its taken the thread, ever so slightly, off track! Lol). Hopefully our polar-opposite-opinions haven't caused too much offence. Even though we don't agree, I think we kind of get each other now. Maybe you Crazy Americans and this Stuffy Brit should meat up for a ride one day!? Lol

Ian.

Slight crossing of the wires I think: that's exactly what I was saying.




Full body armour. Every time. And it should be legislated so.

Ride as defensively as you like, but there'll always be the idiot you didn't expect. I'm not armouring up because my riding is dangerous. I'm armouring up because I see an empty road and think, "Where's the idiot I can't see over a blind summit, round a bend, or in a concealed entrance?".

As for temperature, I've experienced plenty of Floridian summers, and it's no reason to not kit up. There's plenty of mesh armour kits on the market, which while not as comprehensive as full kit, would be sufficient to keep the main contact points off the road. An open face helmet is always better than nothing.

Again, you've given me no good reason to ditch my kit, other than, "I wanna".

Ian

Not far enough if you ask me. In the UK it's a legal requirement to wear a government approved helmet, even on a 50. That doesn't go far enough.

Some one may not have a spouse and children, but I've never met anyone yet who hasn't had a mother and father for at least part of their lives. Friends. Brothers and sisters maybe. Everyone has someone who's going to be affected very much indeed by their injury, disablement or death.

To say that protective equipment only protects against road rash is quiet frankly ignorant. Nothing will save you from every injury, but the majority can be prevented with the correct equipment.

As it stands, there is nothing anyone can say, or demonstrate, that would get me off this high horse and stop me looking down my nose at people who can't see that what they're doing is idiocy. Freedom can kiss my rear end (and that of the horse) if it doesn't involve responsibility.

Ian

Lol. It's kind of hard not to get enthusiastic about these babies!

Thanks for the info, I'll bear that in mind if it ever comes to a new scoot. I was in chatting to the local motorcycle shop owner today, while his mechanic was fixing a puncture for me. He showed me a Kymco.........something........300, that was very nice. It would also have the benefit of keeping my £££s in the local economy.

Thanks for the info.
Ian

^^^^and there's that^^^^^^

Have you really? Cause I've been free enough to come off a couple of times, but never had to spend time recovering from the most avoidable road rash. Unless of course pain is freedom, I'm sure you enjoy the freedom of slamming your pecker in a door.



After eight years in the forces, I've had plenty of fun, and lived without fear in some fairly fearful situations. So much so, that I don't see the point of needlessly risking my life for no reason other than proving how big my ego is.

Have fun being jet washed off the road.

Ian

You could have given her a wash for her big forum debut! Lol

I like it, I like it a lot. What cc have you gone for this time? 250 again? If you don't mind me asking, do you ever get the Mrs on the back as well? How does it perform as a "bicycle made for two"?

I've got two years to upgrade my licence, and three years of finance left on my 125, but I've fallen in love with scoots now and I'm kind of liking these or the Burgmans.

Nice scoot, thanks for your info!
Ian