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Post by elw on Aug 30, 2013 15:16:44 GMT -5
To come back and update this, It seems as if the regulator was the problem. I added a new one to my bike and now the voltage stays at 12.8 with the lights on, which is a significant improvement over the 10.5 it used to be at.
I unfortunately got an unsupported exhaust system, when I contacted the vendor they assured me that it would fit. So I am going to go to a local muffler shop and see if they can bend the header to make it fit.
Other than that the next things on my list of tweaks involve getting 16" tires for winter and adjusting the intake and exhaust valves.
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Post by elw on Aug 13, 2013 20:07:12 GMT -5
My most recent round of testing is as follows. Resistances for my rectifier in similar to the chart I have posted before.
+ W Y R G
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W \ ∞ ∞ ∞
Y ∞ \ ∞ .934M
R 300k ∞ \ ∞
G ∞ 1.05M ∞ \
I also have ~25v on my yellow AC (3v DC), 29V on my Red AC (12.6DC), 0/0 on Green, 25 White AC (3v DC).
Would it be wise to just buy a new Reg/rec and try that?
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Post by elw on Aug 12, 2013 19:57:08 GMT -5
Unfortunately it seems as if my LED headlights won't function off of ac and they burned out. So I am at a completely loss as to what I should try and do next. I also got an exhaust system which won't fit without a decent amount of modification so that's fun. Any hints on what I should be looking at in my electric circuit in order to keep my battery charged?
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Post by elw on Aug 8, 2013 10:15:47 GMT -5
I'm gonna use www.chinesescooterreference.com/pdf/Wiring_diagram_colored.pdf as a guide to try and help me figure out where my power sources are. Some of the colors are mixed up but thats nothing I can't figure out. It seems that "Light Switch" is what my kill switch is, but I'll have to take another look at it to be sure. From the diagram it seems like yellow is the AC source that I'm gonna be looking to wire into for my headlamps. I'll definitely keep looking around and test some more tonight. |
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Post by elw on Aug 7, 2013 20:37:33 GMT -5
It's a 4 pin regulator. Red, White (pink for me), Yellow, and green. Although it could be a bad regulator because when I tried to test it according to this chart i943.photobucket.com/albums/ad271/imageshare/GY6voltageregulatorresistancechart.jpgand none of the resistances were right. Also the RPMs did not change the rate at which the red wire coming off of the regulator changed, it stayed about 12.7 all the time. |
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Post by elw on Aug 7, 2013 20:00:13 GMT -5
I did a little bit more testing and here are my results.
I checked the regulator and it was turning out 12.7v when the bike was on, this is on the low side but it will still charge. There are other values from the regulator but they all seemed reasonable from what I've read. The big problem seemed to be that my headlamps are wired into my DC circuit and when I unplugged them my battery jumped from 10.5v when it was on to 12v. So I am gonna have to find a wiring diagram and reroute the headlamps into the ac circuit if that is even possible.
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Post by elw on Aug 7, 2013 8:48:57 GMT -5
Thanks for all your guys input. I do have an alarm system and I tried to disable it before, but that caused problems in the electric system that I couldn't figure out. I tried a couple more tests today.
When not running the battery terminals: 12.17v
When key is turned to on and the moped is ready to start: 10.5v.
When running at 2k RPM: 10.5v
When running at 5k RPM: 10.7v
I also decided to check and see if there was any draw on the battery when the key was not in, so I disconnected the negative connection from the battery and ran my negative connection of my multimeter to that and the positive to the negative post of the battery and there was a .03 micro Amp draw. That can't possibly be enough to kill the battery.
This leads me to believe that it is something when the system is running is causing a huge draw or my charging system just isn't existant at all. I believe that its the charging system because the headlights will dim when the break lights are activated and I only currently have 1 headlight installed. So I feel like it shouldn't be drawing that much power, or would it? I'll check tonight to see if I can disable the alarm system completely and see if my volts stay up.
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Post by elw on Aug 6, 2013 21:23:47 GMT -5
Excellent thanks for the info on the exhaust system. I'll look into getting one of those tomorrow. Back to my electric problem. I have run some small diagnostics now that I have a multimeter. Without anything on the battery is at 12.05v (it definitely wasn't charged all the way) and when I turned it in the battery terminals tested at 10.5v! This drain is definitely due to the lights being on with the moped but I don't have an adequate charging system. What values should I be looking at to determine if it is the stator or the regulator? I found this to help, but I am unsure if the values within it will work for a xingyue. www.familygokarts.com/manuals/ace/arrow150_engine_service_manual.pdfThis only gives values for the rectifier: 12v for the red to ground connection, green to ground is conductive (completed circuit?), .1~.8 Ohms yellow to GND, and .2~2 Ohms White to GND. Would any of this be right? |
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Post by elw on Aug 6, 2013 10:09:14 GMT -5
I have a question about your exhaust system that you installed on your Xingyue. Did you have to do any extensive modifications or did it bolt on just straight up? I don't really have the materials to do modifications myself so I'd have to take it to a shop if I had to do one with modifications.
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Post by elw on Jul 29, 2013 13:24:26 GMT -5
 Is a link to the exact model that I have. I'm not sure what model types there are for Xingyue 150s. A quick search said VOG 260. Thanks for the recommendation for the tail pipe, I'll have to look into if it will fit. My big problem here is that I believe that part in the image (the part where the spring goes behind) where one of the supports of the exhaust is attached, has broken off so I will need to find a buddy who can weld to attach it. Have you done any work on the kick starter? Does yours start even if it isn't something that works well? The main problem is that mine does not start at all from the Kick starter and I am unsure of why. Thanks for the recommended voltage troubleshooting steps. I'll be sure to check them out. |
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Post by elw on Jul 29, 2013 11:09:39 GMT -5
Hello everyone, My Xingyue scooter has been giving me a lot of troubles recently and I am looking for some help. My scooter seems to only start if I charge the battery every time I ride it. I have tried swapping batteries with a new one. This leads me to think that here is an electrical drain or a magneto problem. Is this correct thinking? What are some suggested steps for going about trouble shooting and determining which is the problem? What are some recommended voltages for when the bike is running? In addition to my electrical starting problems I have a problem with my kick start too. It seems like it is slipping and too easy. It's not generating resistance to turn the motor over. Upon taking apart the gearbox housing it doesn't look like there are any problems and I have made sure that the timing of the gears are lined up by their hash marks. Even when attempting to kick start it, there seems to be no attempt of turning the motor over. What would be some suggestions to try and troubleshoot this further? I would love a fix to this as my electric system isn't even reliable at this point in time. And my final thing that I would like advice on is that I seemed to have lost my exhaust system due to a bracket breaking off of the frame. I was curious if an exhaust system such as this would fit my bike (I would think so), and if anyone has any recommendations on systems they like. www.ebay.com/itm/150cc-GY6-Performance-Exhaust-Stainless-Steel-/121115697038?pt=Other_Vehicle_Parts&hash=item1c330edf8e&vxp=mtr |
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