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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 14, 2017 7:00:48 GMT -5
So do I have rocker arms or valve shims in my 200? And what diff does it make to me who doesn't do the adjustments herself?
'gull, come on, go get this last BV rocky found. That's almost new, you know. Come join the Italian fleet!
>'Kat
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Post by rockynv on Mar 14, 2017 12:10:40 GMT -5
So do I have rocker arms or valve shims in my 200? And what diff does it make to me who doesn't do the adjustments herself? 'gull, come on, go get this last BV rocky found. That's almost new, you know. Come join the Italian fleet! >'Kat Difference in paying for 30 minutes of labor at $150 an hour and paying for 2 or 3 hours labor for a valve adjustment. Newer Piaggio bikes have 4 valve heads so you are paying to have twice as many valves adjusted per cylinder compared to a GY6. I believe the BV200 has adjustable rocker arms. |
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 14, 2017 22:39:34 GMT -5
Difference in paying for 30 minutes of labor at $150 an hour and paying for 2 or 3 hours labor for a valve adjustment. Newer Piaggio bikes have 4 valve heads so you are paying to have twice as many valves adjusted per cylinder compared to a GY6. I believe the BV200 has adjustable rocker arms. Wow. FL costs lots more than KS. I think my guys charged about $  for the entire tune-up plus oil last spring. And testing my battery. And explaining stuff to me. And having "yes the oil is clean change it anyway" explained another year. And that took more than 30 minutes (I could watch them from the little waiting area) You know, changing out clean oil really seems to freak out mechanics.  >'Kat, happy to have something cheaper for once |
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 14, 2017 22:41:01 GMT -5
So 'gull, did you call on this last BV? NO? WHY NOT YOU IDJIT!!!!!  You know you want Italian, you've read everything rocky gushes about his, you've read how reliable mine's been despite sitting for too long. SO GO CONTACT THE SELLER ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >'Kat |
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Post by rockynv on Mar 14, 2017 23:17:15 GMT -5
Top shops charge up to $150 across the US while high volume dealers may be as low as $  an hour. Depends on how much they've invested in OEM training and tooling every year. It costs money to send your mechanics to Piaggio's training center for some weeks every few years to keep them all fresh and up to date. |
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 15, 2017 6:10:19 GMT -5
Maybe ScooterWorld charges less for a package deal like a full tune up. Hopefully I don't need to find out what their hourly rate is for a repair.
But I think Van Walls who was the licensed Piaggio dealership/repair shop charged less than that.
Maybe I'm just lucky and our shops do charge less?
>'Kat
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Post by floridagull on Mar 15, 2017 9:03:15 GMT -5
Kat - you do realize that rocky is on the west coast of FL, whereas I am on the east... Don't want to go across the state... Plus, to paraphrase an old adage, I have Piaggio taste and a Kymco budget...  |
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Post by rockynv on Mar 15, 2017 11:49:45 GMT -5
Wheres your spirit of adventure? Riding back on an unknown scooter through Aligator Alley could be viewed as an entertaining. Could end up profitable too if you snag some of the larger Pythons during roundup season to help with the budget. They pay something like an extra $20 a foot over 9 or so feet long.
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 15, 2017 21:56:45 GMT -5
Oh rocky, I just adore you right now!
'gull, what he said. Plus FL is like half the width of KS's length. And you can drive across all of KS in one day. FedEx delivers anywhere in KS from KC next day. As for your budget, those are officially Good Deals. Worth going in hock for that third one. It'll last you forever, so think of your savings there.
>'Kat
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Post by rockynv on Mar 15, 2017 22:33:00 GMT -5
Kat - When things are tight even a dollar over budget can hurt.
I get tempted too but the needs of the Family usually outway the wants and needs of the Dad. Otherwise I'd have a White Mana 850 GT Automatic with the Fairings and Full Touring Package.
Still want to take a ride to where they have Humphry Bogarts African Queen moored in the Florida Keys to take the Lunch Excursion and then go on to the Western Union while she is still sailing in the Keys but...
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 16, 2017 10:13:26 GMT -5
Oi!  You can't promote several Piggys then promote budget, Mr Rocky!  That's hanging on both sides of the fence (or some such cliche). And why can't you take the tour? Although you should really go in the car so everyone else can go with. Family trips really are the best! >'Kat |
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 16, 2017 10:14:51 GMT -5
Oh, gull, show your Piggy seller the two rocky found. See how much less he'll take. Esp show the low-low miles one for barely more than his $2800 asking. Maybe you'll end up getting that Piggy on your Kymco budget after all.
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Post by rockynv on Mar 16, 2017 12:21:48 GMT -5
Oi! You can't promote several Piggys then promote budget, Mr Rocky! That's hanging on both sides of the fence (or some such cliche). And why can't you take the tour? Although you should really go in the car so everyone else can go with. Family trips really are the best! >'Kat Families afraid of boats and the water so I would be the only one who would enjoy it. Its one thing to show whats available but another to tease someone a tad over the top when they can't find their way clear to make an investment. Gull knows his limits and I can respect that. He has to do what feels right and we really should not pressure him too much. BTW: I have taken the tour a number of times to West Palm, Vero, Daytona, St Augustine and Miami but am not up for it right at this moment. |
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 16, 2017 22:17:42 GMT -5
Bummer about not up to the trip. And the family not doing water.
You could always find some nice land bound tour for everyone to enjoy. Like a gator wrestling farm. Then later when you're up to it, take the African Queen tour.
Btb that's one of Momma's fave movies.
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Post by rockynv on Mar 16, 2017 23:45:52 GMT -5
Bummer about not up to the trip. And the family not doing water. You could always find some nice land bound tour for everyone to enjoy. Like a gator wrestling farm. Then later when you're up to it, take the African Queen tour. Btb that's one of Momma's fave movies. Its about 700 miles round trip and $ per person for the luncheon on the Queen. Add another 200 miles to get to the Western Union. You could call it a 1,000 mile round trip. At least the Muskegee Indians opened a gas station on Aligator Alley so you no longer have 80 miles with no facilities however I am not certain of its hours of operation. Yes while Florida is relatively narrow its quite long. If you enter the state from the West its about 1,000 miles from Pensicola to Key West where the Western Union is moored. While other members may be on the East coast and I am on the West our North to South distance can be well beyond the scope of a day trip especially if there is no straight road and you have to circle large tracts of wild lands to get to your destination adding hundreds of miles to what would be a 50 mile ride as the crow flies. Some day it will all mesh for me. For Gull if there are low mileage BV350 and 500's along with Aprilia Scarabeo's and Sport City out there in my part of Florida if he keeps his eyes open there should eventually be some in his. The Piaggio X9 500 is also a consideration too. One problem is with folks buying into the idea of riding without checking the real street values and after finding its not for them try to resell based on the original and rarely charged MSRP and not the actual street price of the bike or who list using the Dealer price and not the Private Sale values. My Sport City for example sold for the last few years it was available for $2,999 yet you see folks trying to sell them based on a $4,599 MSRP trying to get the full original purchase price back on the sale. Keep looking as bargains are out there and eventually one will find one close enough to jump on. |
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for the entire tune-up plus oil last spring. And testing my battery. And explaining stuff to me. And having "yes the oil is clean change it anyway" explained another year. And that took more than 30 minutes (I could watch them from the little waiting area)
an hour. Depends on how much they've invested in OEM training and tooling every year. It costs money to send your mechanics to Piaggio's training center for some weeks every few years to keep them all fresh and up to date.
