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Post by mrsunsett on Oct 25, 2016 0:16:26 GMT -5
So..... my pcx has great lights.... no denying that guys... but my wife has a 150 baccio bro... and it has bulb lights like little 50 cc scoots....
I was wondering if you could put HID set up. On the Baccio Bro 150cc (the light set up is the same as the Yamaha zuma.
Please give me advice... is HID worth?? Its great in the acura 4dr (the family car)... just want to know if anyone had any experience with this.
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Post by rockynv on Oct 25, 2016 14:53:01 GMT -5
I would go LED if possible over HID. I have seen too many lamp housings damaged by the excess heat generated by HID bulbs. You get a ton of light from a 15 or 20 watt LED headlamp bulb compared to a 55 or 65 halogen and at much lower temperatures.
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Post by mrsunsett on Oct 25, 2016 15:12:13 GMT -5
I would go LED if possible over HID. I have seen too many lamp housings damaged by the excess heat generated by HID bulbs. You get a ton of light from a 15 or 20 watt LED headlamp bulb compared to a 55 or 65 halogen and at much lower temperatures. Appreciate that. Just tired of changing out bulbs so frequently. |
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Post by rockynv on Oct 25, 2016 15:16:34 GMT -5
I would go LED if possible over HID. I have seen too many lamp housings damaged by the excess heat generated by HID bulbs. You get a ton of light from a 15 or 20 watt LED headlamp bulb compared to a 55 or 65 halogen and at much lower temperatures. Appreciate that. Just tired of changing out bulbs so frequently. I know the feeling. When I had the Lance Vintage since I was riding daily to commute I was replacing the headlamp bulb every month or two. |
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Post by oldchopperguy on Oct 30, 2016 10:27:37 GMT -5
mrsunsett,
One somewhat simple and affordable alternative for better lights at night is to add auxiliary LED driving lights. I did that on my old Kymco and took some pix to show the difference. The factory headlight was "OK" by scooter standards, but I was STILL not seeing those pesky unpainted curbs extending into traffic lanes (my neighbor recently TOTALLED a new $40K Jeep on one!!!) and I was also having "near-misses" with potholes and debris.
Below are some pix to show the difference between the factory light only, and with the driving lights on.
  My "installation" is simplicity itself... An aluminum tent-pole found in a dumpster and a couple of U-bolts. I did make SURE to use fender-washers and rubber biscuits to spread the stress on the plastic and have had no issues with cracking. My factory low-beam headlight comes on automatically when the engine is started, and has no on-off switch. If the ignition is on, the headlight is on. With 60 extra watts coming on when illuminating them, I did take the added precaution of running heavy wire direct from the battery for the LED's and a low-draw automotive solenoid on-off switch (wired into the factory running lights) to prevent the LED's being lit unless the headlight is on. Probably not necessary, but I like to err on the side of caution.   
These small (flashlight-size) LED's are 30 watts each (only a few watts more than factory headlights) but put out the equivalent of about 60 watts of incandescent bulbs. They REALLY make a difference. Now I can see a football field ahead, and, mounted fairly low, and aimed slightly to the right, they don't seem to bother oncoming traffic at all. I always turn them on at night, and after a full season, I've had no oncoming traffic flash their brights at me.
These are "pencil" or spot-beam LED's, but you can also find "flood" style. I only use these at night, and have had no problem with them running down the battery. Many varieties of this type of auxiliary LED light can be found on eBay quite cheap. Even ONE would be a MAJOR improvement over standard Chinese factory headlights and only used at night, would probably not cause too much battery drain. On a scoot that won't be ridden over 40-mph or so, a single spot-style reaching out should be enough for safer night riding. Even the flood-style has considerable reach, AND a lot of peripheral lighting too (more like a factory headlight on steroids)... LOL! Even a smaller, 15 watt LED makes a LOT of light on a scooter! These lights offer a lot of light for the buck! Hope this might help...Ride safe! Leo in Texas
PS: One note: LED's do NOT like AC current. All my Kymco's lights run on DC, but many scoots use AC for some of the incandescent bulbs. It's easy to avoid problems by simply running LED's direct from the battery. If you need LED's on an AC circuit as with some model's head and tail-lights... It's best to use a bridge-rectifier to convert the AC power to DC for the LED's.
On my first Chinese 150, the tail-light and stop-light ran on DC, but the headlights ran on AC. So I connected extra LED stop/tail-lights into the factory DC wires, but used a bridge-rectifier to connect an LED aux. light into the factory wiring. It would have been easier to just hook direct to the battery... Duh... Live and learn.
You can tell which lights are AC or DC by a simple test: If the lights can come on with the engine not running, they must be DC, running off the battery. If the lights only work with the engine running (not just having the ignition on) they are most likely AC, requiring the stator to be running.
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