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Post by floridagull on Jul 16, 2016 11:02:33 GMT -5
Well, we woke up this morning to find that my scooter and my son's electric bicycle were STOLEN from in front of our house last night! Alternating between and and and and Called police - filed report - no insurance (scooter probably worth about $300-$400) - don't think we'll be getting them back... Alas... The electric bicycle was on our front porch - the scooter, at top of driveway right up against house - neither had keys in them... I guess if degenerates want your stuff, there's not much that will deter them...
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Post by flyangler on Jul 16, 2016 11:19:51 GMT -5
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Post by JR on Jul 16, 2016 13:50:00 GMT -5
floridagull check at all local pawn shops. sounds like someone anting to sell them for a quick buck to buy dope. JR
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Post by oldchopperguy on Jul 16, 2016 13:55:07 GMT -5
Floridagull,
I'm SO sorry to hear of your bikes being stolen. You are right though. If someone really wants them, they will be gone.
Back in the seventies, I rode a brand-new Harley Electra-Glide. It was parked under a covered parking space, chained to the supporting pole with a supposedly unbreakable titanium chain and gov't. padlock. The Hog was also blocked by my full-sized dinosaur Olds sedan. My neighbor watched as a maxi-van pulled up, 8 or 10 outlaw bikers jumped out and six of them (three on each end) picked up the Olds and moved it out of the way... Two of them sprayed Freon on the "unbreakable" chain and hit it with a sledge-hammer. It shattered like glass. Finally, four of the cretins picked up the Hog and unceremoniously threw it into the van. They were gone with my pride and joy in less than one minute.I had full-coverage insurance, and had just moved here from Illinois. The "Good Hands" people informed me that the coverage was null and void in Texas. Oh, yeah... Thanks a pant-load. Today I ride with the lizard... GEICO. Cheap, and probably as good as any. I never again was able to afford a bike until eight years ago, when I discovered Chinese scooters. I bought a new Xingyue 150 for $600. Now it's scooters for me. Too much arthritis to climb on and off the big cruisers and choppers now. The only "justice" about my bagger's demise is that the same crew returned later to steal another Harley. The owner was a Class III firearms dealer and had the Hog silent-alarmed. He interrupted the thieves and received a shotgun blast in the belly, but survived and managed to return fire with an M-60 machinegun, killing EVERYBODY and their cat. Amazing how even the most experienced crooks SOMETIMES pick the WRONG guy to rip off. Hope you can replace the stolen goodies, but there is little you can do to prevent a repeat of the theft, unless the bikes can be completely out of sight. Hang in there,Leo (The Old Chopper Guy) in Texas
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Post by floridagull on Jul 16, 2016 13:56:04 GMT -5
Really? With no keys? Or title? (for mine, anyway...) I thought to call the 2 shops in town that fix/repair/sell 50cc scooters (in case someone calls and says "yeah, I lost all my keys...what can I do?" - didn't think of pawn shops... Well, in case they are not found, I found this - treasure.craigslist.org/mcy/5652977376.html - and this - treasure.craigslist.org/mcy/5678601912.html - on my local Craigslist...first one 10-inch wheels, a bit smaller frame than my Baccio, throttle cable to be replaced Monday, so I'll ride it Tuesday with my wife - it might have a too-low weight capacity - the second one has quite a few miles... But - I want my scooter (and my son's e-bike) back!!!
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Post by oldchopperguy on Jul 16, 2016 14:12:23 GMT -5
Also, keep a lookout locally as you go about your daily business. Sometimes these thefts are just "thrill" activities by rotten little kids. You may find the bikes simply laying around in a vacant lot, or a yard.
One SMALL ray of hope... I've found high-end stranded-steel cables available at RV stores are as the most theft-proof devices in my experience. Hard steel chains can be easily cut today with cordless disk-grinders. Probably the cables can too, but my Kymco remains chained to a support under my carport with a Coleman cable and lock. It bears NUMEROUS "nibbles" from some pretty hefty bolt-cutters. But, it is still intact.
I also keep a silver tarp over the scoot, which blends into the surroundings. "Out of site, out of mind" is a real help...
When you replace the rides, you might want to keep them in the back of your place, and chained to something (even to each other). Every little bit helps.
Best wishes for sure,
Leo in Texas
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Post by cyborg on Jul 16, 2016 14:37:47 GMT -5
Man I hate thieves,,the worst,, good luck in finding them,,, I hope you do,, I have a problem right now with gas siphoners,, and the last time I put locking caps the went under the van and cut the fill pipes so now I have my pellet gun handy with dish head pellets and the added attraction of dog in the dish,,, & a 12 with buck if it ascalates as a backup,,,all my bikes are garage covered thank goodness,,, anyways good luck with the recovery
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Post by spandi on Jul 16, 2016 16:27:50 GMT -5
If and when you get a new scooter, put a tracking unit on it and let the police meet the thieves at their door.
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Post by wheelbender6 on Jul 16, 2016 17:26:48 GMT -5
it's just a real shame how the dopers will sTeel anything that's not bolted into the bedrock.
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Post by SylvreKat on Jul 16, 2016 19:53:43 GMT -5
Gosh gull, that so sux.
I know how you feel about just wanting your own back. I felt the same when someone stole the renewal sticker off my car's tag (IN MY CHURCH'S PARKING LOT no less!!)--wanted my sticker back and the ratstard totally prosecuted.
Call the pawn shops, call any place that might take in a used scooter, give them all a head's up about the theft. And call the locksmiths so they know there's a scooter and e-bike stolen that someone might be wanting keys made. Oh, and post it on Craig's List too--with good photos if you have them. That way no unsuspecting sot buys them.
As for the potential replacements, I dunno. Low miles are always good, but sounds like the second bike has had lots of attention and care. Plus it's cheaper and comes with extras. I'd say it's about a toss-up between them.
Hope someone does get contacted and the cops get the thief/thieves.
>'Kat
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Post by JR on Jul 16, 2016 21:47:09 GMT -5
Really? With no keys? Or title? (for mine, anyway...) I thought to call the 2 shops in town that fix/repair/sell 50cc scooters (in case someone calls and says "yeah, I lost all my keys...what can I do?" - didn't think of pawn shops... Well, in case they are not found, I found this - treasure.craigslist.org/mcy/5652977376.html - and this - treasure.craigslist.org/mcy/5678601912.html - on my local Craigslist...first one 10-inch wheels, a bit smaller frame than my Baccio, throttle cable to be replaced Monday, so I'll ride it Tuesday with my wife - it might have a too-low weight capacity - the second one has quite a few miles... But - I want my scooter (and my son's e-bike) back!!! You would be surprised to know what even a pawn shop will buy with neither keys or title. Key's is no big deal strip it down and buy a new key lock and you're ready to go. If it is a 50cc then like in my state you don't need a title to even ride it or tags, not required of a 50cc. Laws vary on pawn shops for instance years ago I had a work truck broke into in Kilgore Tx and they stole all together over $1000 worth of tools along with a Honda generator. I found every single item 2 days later at a pawn shop. Called the law and presented them with the poof that the items in the shop were mine. They did work to find out who brought the items in from the pawn shop owner but would not make him release the stolen items. Why? In the state of Texas if one claims that the pawn dealer has stolen goods in their store they must prove the pawn dealer knew beyond a shadow of a doubt he was buying stolen goods. How you going to do that? The law in Texas protects the pawn dealer and basically gives him a license to buy stolen property! The dealer did tell me he would sell me my own property back and at a cheap price and I told him and the law there to stick it where the sun doesn't shine. Different in Arkansas, you find items in a pawn shop, prove they are yours the pawn dealer must surrender them and the go after the thief who he bought them from, makes pawn dealers think twice about what they buy and don't buy. If they turn the thief in and they are caught then the thief must make restitution to the pawn owner along with pay for his crime. Like I said different states different laws. JR
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Post by oldchopperguy on Jul 17, 2016 9:37:41 GMT -5
JR, Yeah, TX pawn shops seem to operate under some really strange laws, allowing tongue-in-cheek "approval" to buy and resell stolen goods... And, charge interest rates nobody can meet. Just ONCE I found myself out of gas with no cash or credit card. My fault, but I had a nice .38 Spl. revolver with me. I hit the first pawn shop I saw, and they gave me a whopping $35 for the $250 gun. I "redeemed" it 2 weeks later for $195. Never again! The "Quick Cash" cash for your car title money mills operate under pawn shop laws too. Go get $1,000 borrowed on your paid-for $10,000 family car title, and you'll probably pay $10,000 in interest... or more likely, you'll lose your car. And, of course there are the shelves of various guns in the pawn shops with the serial numbers ground off... along with other serial numbered goodies with the numbers obliterated... even Rolex watches. I've even seen brand-new bicycles and electronics in pawn shops, with Wal-Mart or other store tags STILL on them... Cheesh!
It is a little like eBay... Ever wonder how sellers with an apartment address always seem to have a never-ending supply of big-screen TV's "new in the box" listed week after week? Easy! They hack credit cards, go to Wally World and buy $1,000 TV's at one store after another. Then toss the card and list the TV's on eBay for 2/3 of retail price. Then, hack another card and just keep on. It's their full-time job... And they're PROUD of their hard work. It's the "new American economy"... And it's just quietly "accepted" as a dirty little (but quite OK) way to make a living... or, bump up your $18K job income to the $50K it takes to live in a little better state of poverty... Ask folks at work, at the restaurant... even at CHURCH... and they'll shrug their shoulders and mumble... "well, EVERYBODY does it". Heck, it keeps us in condoms and rolling papers... You just do what it takes to get by. Well I don't do it. My friends don't do it. And when somebody does it to me, I get really unfriendly. Sorry Dorothy, but we are NOT in Kansas anymore... Keep yer' locks locked, and yer' guns loaded...Leo in Texas
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Post by Jarlaxle on Jul 17, 2016 11:10:50 GMT -5
Actually, I know someone that sells electronics on eBay. He buys stuff wholesale (and also disco'd stuff, demos, open-box, etc) really cheap, tests it, and resells it. He will sometimes make 2-3 functioning items (especially computers) from 4-5 dead ones. My wife got her laptop from him...it was a warranty replacement from (of all places) Rent-A-Center with a bad screen. He replaced the screen, and it worked perfectly...for about a quarter what it cost new.
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Post by JerryScript on Jul 17, 2016 13:17:02 GMT -5
FYI- You can get a TK103 GPS tracker for less than $30 these days, with a sim card that costs $10/month. You just call it on your cellphone, it hangs up and sends you a test message with a link to google maps with the location. Lots of other features as well, worth it IMHO.
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Post by SylvreKat on Jul 17, 2016 14:48:21 GMT -5
Yeah Leo, you are NOT in KS!
I talked with the big pawn shop up the street how things work 'cause I was just curious. They said you can either sell something outright, or "loan" it. Then you have payments every month. You miss a month, they'll call and remind you. If you keep missing or they can't get you, then after I think three months they put it out to sell. If you show up at that point, they'll let you buy it back for something between what you still owed and what they have it priced to sell.
Meanwhile over in MO, there's a loan-shop up the street from my bro. There was a big fire that pretty much destroyed the row of shops. Everyone else has moved out, except this title loan. Seems if they close, there's nowhere else they can reopen due to MO changing the laws on how many title loan places can be in an area. And MO won't let them be grandfathered to close while the remains are torn down, rebuilt, and reopen the store. Really stupid situation,
>'Kat
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