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Post by shane0613 on Jun 22, 2016 21:13:42 GMT -5
I'll start by saying I had a xingyue ita 150 & never had any problems. Basically I never had to repair much and i got a taotao paladin 150 a few months back used. Shortly after getting it I noticed it started skipping especially when trying gaining higher speeds. I thought it was gas/carb issues or something. I was riding around 50mph a couple weeks ago and it quit going. The cvt belt was shredded inside but I was able to make out the part number 835-20-30 so I ordered a new one. I cleaned inside the housing as good as I could and put the belt on without taking the variator off. Now its stuck in high gear and wont go into low gear. Never had this issue before. Now im thinking the skipping was possibly the belt missing teeth. I don't think the clutch would go bad if it was fine before. I'm gonna take it apart tomorrow and see if I see anything. Another question I have is about the kick start. I don't know the exact names of the parts but inside the cvt housing are the two rods with cogs on them. The one closest to the variator and not the one that actually holds the kick lever has apparently gotten out of alignment. Can I just take the kick start out and have only the clutch and variator? My electric start works fine and I think something was broken or out of alignment on the kick start and is possibly the reason the belt shredded. I am limited with what tools I have. I've had the toughest 8 months of my life. Any suggestions on fixes? I'm pretty much limited to socket set. No impact wrench, torch or anything. I could probably borrow tools but it'd be a long walk to get them.
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Post by shane0613 on Jun 22, 2016 21:21:44 GMT -5
Sorry if theirs a tutorial on this. I've looked at YouTube, some articles but I'm stuck using a windows phone so half the sites, videos, search functions don't work. Also the scooter sort of sounds like a truck with a broken muffler now. Engine runs fine. Can be hard to start if not started in several days but carb cleaner gets it to start. It's a 2014 also.
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Post by JerryScript on Jun 22, 2016 22:15:17 GMT -5
You probably have some pieces of the shredded belt stuck inside the clutch assembly. There is a groove on the shaft that pins run in, a piece of belt in there could cause symptoms like you describe.
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Post by tortoise on Jun 22, 2016 23:23:49 GMT -5
Be sure to only use 6-point sockets on variator and clutch bell nuts (pull rear brake lever).
"You can also lock the engine by putting a length of cotton rope down the spark plug hole, with the valves closed and the piston coming up on the compression stroke. Any small bits of cotton left in the engine will burn up and not hurt any thing" . . source
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Post by shane0613 on Jun 23, 2016 12:08:52 GMT -5
That's what I was hoping. I will clean it out and see if it helps. It took a week for Napa to even get the belt.
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Post by shane0613 on Jun 23, 2016 13:45:09 GMT -5
I just ran it without the cvt cover and the clutch bell isn't spinning with the back tire. When I spin it with my hands it spins but when the bike is operating it there is no spinning.
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Post by lain on Jun 23, 2016 13:55:02 GMT -5
Can you show us a video? Does the variator spin?
Sounds like a bad clutch (hopefully) or possibly bad final transmission gears.
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Post by shane0613 on Jun 23, 2016 15:25:50 GMT -5
When its on its stand with the back tire raised. The outer part of the clutch doesn't spin. I kinda overreacted when I posted that BC I thought the belt was spinning on an entire clutch that wasn't spinning. Like the whole thing was stuck. Looking at it closer the inner part does spin with the belt. I've watched that GIF type graphic that shows how its supposed to move outward at higher rpms and it is moving outward but just isn't going into low gear. When I started it on the stand and revved it everything spins but as soon as I take it off the stand and the tire hits the ground that outer part of the clutch quits spinning. I think some videos called it the outer bell. The part u push in to get the belt off/on. I will get a video of it and upload to YouTube so I can share it. I'm just new to this stuff and probably not explaining it great and have been in a financial bind lately due to my wife having a bad medical issue leaving her unable to walk or work. I truly Appreciate the help  |
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Post by shane0613 on Aug 10, 2016 19:35:57 GMT -5
Sorry its been awhile but I finally got around to making a video. I took the belt off a few days before making this video so hopefully you can still get an idea of what may be wrong. If not I can put the belt on and make another video.
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Post by shane0613 on Aug 10, 2016 19:40:31 GMT -5
The end of the video I was trying to show those roller looking things on the back of the variator but couldn't get a good View. The don't seem to be aligned in any order. Some will flip around with your finger.
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Post by shane0613 on Aug 11, 2016 21:01:48 GMT -5
Problem solved. The rollers in the variator were out of their grooves. Every single one of them. I managed to get the variator off with a large set of channel locks and a socket break bar with a pipe fitted over it for extra leverage. It used a 17mm socket. I put all the rollers back in place and some were damaged (had sides worn flat) but i tried it anyway just to see if it would work and it did. Now all I have to do is order a new variator and the scoot will run like new.
thanks to everyone who tried to help.
Here is a video of the variator and clutch spinning after i temporarily fixed it. It even shows my wife riding it. I rode it a few miles and it ran like a champ.
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