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Post by mftic on Oct 1, 2015 17:40:16 GMT -5
Trying to remove it and the more I think about it the more it confuses me!! I removed the canister and it's 3 hoses. I think I only have one place to plug up now not including the gas tank vent which i will deal with later. Picture of the valve cover with only 1 hose coming off. Assuming this is a vent and gets left alone?? Trying to remember from last night and I think it goes to the air intake tube for the carb. That's all? When i follow the hoses it just confuses me. Here are 2 more pictures that are kinda related. I already took the hose off of this one and just need to plug up the hole into the air intake tube to carb. Forgot, I still need to cap off the vacumm hose too. Really I just need to take out a "T" and then reconnect the other hoses together.
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by: JoeyBee - Oct 1, 2015 21:52:58 GMT -5
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Post by JoeyBee on Oct 1, 2015 21:52:58 GMT -5
Okay...
I'm going to try and be quick with my explanation, ask if you need more details.
The hose from the valve cover gets a fuel filter on the end and attached to the frame. On my scooter I have it bending in a u then just slightly lower than the bottom of the frame. Others say to mount the end to a high point of the frame. That way oil vapor will cool and run back in.
As for the air box, disconnect it and throw it in the trash. Amazon has pod filter for $10. The stock air boxes restrict flow and only cause problems. Only reason to keep the stock box is if you do off roading or drive on a gravel road. If not its just junk.
Now the only two parts that need a vacuum line is the carb and fuel petcock.
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by: florida - Oct 2, 2015 10:03:57 GMT -5
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Post by florida on Oct 2, 2015 10:03:57 GMT -5
Okay... I'm going to try and be quick with my explanation, ask if you need more details. The hose from the valve cover gets a fuel filter on the end and attached to the frame. On my scooter I have it bending in a u then just slightly lower than the bottom of the frame. Others say to mount the end to a high point of the frame. That way oil vapor will cool and run back in. As for the air box, disconnect it and throw it in the trash. Amazon has pod filter for $10. The stock air boxes restrict flow and only cause problems. Only reason to keep the stock box is if you do off roading or drive on a gravel road. If not its just junk. Now the only two parts that need a vacuum line is the carb and fuel petcock. Excellent instructions. If you have a petcock like my Znen 50cc, the vacumn line starts from in front of the carb and goes to the lower fitting on the petcock. The higher fitting on your petcock is the fuel line that attatches to your carbuerator. My stock airbox serves as a toolbox after switching to a red $10 round air filter. The tube that went from airbox to carb was ditched and I glued a black piece of plastic ( cut from an oil jug) to plug the hole. I also glued black plastic in the airboxes round hole to make my toolbox watertight. You might wonder how I plan on accessing my tools when I break down. I cut down an appropriate size philips head screwdriver and drilled a hole in it that slips on my key ring. Has Anyone else made this modification?
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Post by mftic on Oct 2, 2015 10:07:53 GMT -5
Hmm...
I think part of the problem is I am trying to do as little to this scoot as possible. Started digging into it after she died on me in an intersection. Stupid me started removing the system before noticing that there was no gas in the hose. Before continuing I changed out the petcock for a manual one and hopefully won't have that problem any more.
Now since I started removing the PAIR i was committed. I'm not trying to gain horsepower, acceleration, top speed, nor make it look cooler/better. There has to be a stopping point. Otherwise you change one thing and need to change another, then another, then another, and so on.
So hopefully i'm not hurting anything but decided to leave it like it is and try. Started up just fine. Had a gas leak cause the line is to big. Didn't get any further. Need to steal some small zip ties because the big one I had did nothing and still leaked.
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by: JoeyBee - Oct 2, 2015 12:00:02 GMT -5
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Post by JoeyBee on Oct 2, 2015 12:00:02 GMT -5
Hmm... I think part of the problem is I am trying to do as little to this scoot as possible. Started digging into it after she died on me in an intersection. Stupid me started removing the system before noticing that there was no gas in the hose. Before continuing I changed out the petcock for a manual one and hopefully won't have that problem any more. Now since I started removing the PAIR i was committed. I'm not trying to gain horsepower, acceleration, top speed, nor make it look cooler/better. There has to be a stopping point. Otherwise you change one thing and need to change another, then another, then another, and so on. So hopefully i'm not hurting anything but decided to leave it like it is and try. Started up just fine. Had a gas leak cause the line is to big. Didn't get any further. Need to steal some small zip ties because the big one I had did nothing and still leaked. Removing the emission devices won't hurt anything. This modification will actually help your engine last longer. Recycling those dirty fumes back into your engine only gums it up with more carbon buildup. Plus it will help you make your setup more simple.
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Post by mftic on Oct 4, 2015 13:52:10 GMT -5
Had it running good. Turned it off and buttoned it all up. Refuses to start now. How stupid is that?!?!?! Pretty sure no spark. Maybe wire got bent so many times it broke inside? I'll have to test that later.
*just about ready to throw in the towel on this scoot.
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by: JoeyBee - Oct 4, 2015 17:53:03 GMT -5
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Post by JoeyBee on Oct 4, 2015 17:53:03 GMT -5
Did you check all your wires and connections? I'm guessing you knocked something loose when buttoning her up. And don't forget to check the ground wires that attach to the valve cover.
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