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Post by mftic on Jun 21, 2015 20:31:54 GMT -5
Is there any conceivable way the center stand can come down while riding? If you are going in a straight line it can't do more harm than dragging on the ground. What if you were turning? I'm seriously thinking somehow the kick starter is engaging and shooting down causing the center stand to come down. This might make sense as the two metal tabs on either side were bent and the center stand was all the way forward. The reason I ask is I asked the wife to try out the new scoot and compare it to her's. Made it about 2 blocks to the stop sign and started off taking a right when she wiped out. I noticed the center stand was down all the way (thrown forward even as those tabs have not been welded up yet). Maybe this is why the previous owner wiped out?!? I understand it's pointed backwards and even coming down shouldn't do more than drag on the ground. I'm just confused. F(^&ck I feel like s%$#t now. This is what i mean by forward  |
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Post by dmartin95 on Jun 21, 2015 20:48:31 GMT -5
Can you get a better picture of your muffler? It looks like someone welded two, 50cc mufflers together...
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by: geh3333 - Jun 21, 2015 21:13:35 GMT -5
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 21, 2015 21:13:35 GMT -5
I took mine off years ago and I just use the side kick stand. My center stand " the part that you step on " would drag if in leaned too much into a turn.
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Post by steve on Jun 22, 2015 18:00:53 GMT -5
There is supposed to be a spring that holds it up. At least, there is on a 50cc. If that spring goes bad, or comes off, the stand will come down while you are ridingl
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by: JerryScript - Jun 22, 2015 19:57:47 GMT -5
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Post by JerryScript on Jun 22, 2015 19:57:47 GMT -5
Can you get a better picture of your muffler? It looks like someone welded two, 50cc mufflers together... Not to sidetrack the thread, but I would like to know what kind of difference that muffler setup makes too. Looks like it's using a stock header, so I'm guessing it doesn't help much, but it does look kinda cool! |
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Post by lain on Jun 22, 2015 20:06:04 GMT -5
Maybe even quieter ride?
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Post by JerryScript on Jun 22, 2015 20:21:57 GMT -5
Is there any conceivable way the center stand can come down while riding? If you are going in a straight line it can't do more harm than dragging on the ground. What if you were turning? I'm seriously thinking somehow the kick starter is engaging and shooting down causing the center stand to come down. This might make sense as the two metal tabs on either side were bent and the center stand was all the way forward. The reason I ask is I asked the wife to try out the new scoot and compare it to her's. Made it about 2 blocks to the stop sign and started off taking a right when she wiped out. I noticed the center stand was down all the way (thrown forward even as those tabs have not been welded up yet). Maybe this is why the previous owner wiped out?!? I understand it's pointed backwards and even coming down shouldn't do more than drag on the ground. I'm just confused. F(^&ck I feel like s%$#t now. This is what i mean by forward There are a few circumstances in which the slightest contact with the ground can cause inexperienced riders to wipe out when least expected. When taking off, with that center stand pointing forward, if it touched the ground it would have taken just a bit of weight off the rear tire as she was applying throttle, leading to a sudden loss of traction. Another common situation is during turns, inexperienced riders like to put their foot out, or lean too far allowing the kickstand to touch ground, and end up causing sudden loss of traction leading to a slide out. That scooter is not safe even for experienced riders till that center stand is fixed! If you can't fix it now, remove it till you can! |
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by: geh3333 - Jun 22, 2015 23:41:58 GMT -5
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 22, 2015 23:41:58 GMT -5
Is there any conceivable way the center stand can come down while riding? If you are going in a straight line it can't do more harm than dragging on the ground. What if you were turning? I'm seriously thinking somehow the kick starter is engaging and shooting down causing the center stand to come down. This might make sense as the two metal tabs on either side were bent and the center stand was all the way forward. The reason I ask is I asked the wife to try out the new scoot and compare it to her's. Made it about 2 blocks to the stop sign and started off taking a right when she wiped out. I noticed the center stand was down all the way (thrown forward even as those tabs have not been welded up yet). Maybe this is why the previous owner wiped out?!? I understand it's pointed backwards and even coming down shouldn't do more than drag on the ground. I'm just confused. F(^&ck I feel like s%$#t now. This is what i mean by forward There are a few circumstances in which the slightest contact with the ground can cause inexperienced riders to wipe out when least expected. When taking off, with that center stand pointing forward, if it touched the ground it would have taken just a bit of weight off the rear tire as she was applying throttle, leading to a sudden loss of traction. Another common situation is during turns, inexperienced riders like to put their foot out, or lean too far allowing the kickstand to touch ground, and end up causing sudden loss of traction leading to a slide out. That scooter is not safe even for experienced riders till that center stand is fixed! If you can't fix it now, remove it till you can! When it comes to the leaning . there should be no way the kick stand should scrap the ground. Even the center stand . its a terrible design. Even experienced riders may run into a circumstance where he has to lean a little further to avoid something . its not like these are racing motos where you can lean at such and such angle . mine would drag while leaning just slightly further then I normal lean. Its a horrible design for a street legal bike. |
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Post by steve on Jun 23, 2015 8:05:12 GMT -5
Your back tire is low, also, it appears. You need to check that.
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Post by mftic on Jun 23, 2015 13:28:31 GMT -5
Thanks guys, still not sure what happened.
The stand was in it's proper stowed position when she took off and the spring works fine. Now i come to find out she was taking a left turn...but at 5-10mph i still don't see how anything could have scraped the ground unless she was already headed in that direction.
I'm really going to have to chalk this one up to rider error/inexperience until i can proper ride it myself and see if i can duplicate the circumstance. I figure i should have everything properly repaired by next week.
*that picture was when i received the scoot, tire is fixed
**I'll try and get a better picture of the muffler in the next couple of days...it must be stock though as no one has modded the scoot at all.
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by: geh3333 - Jun 25, 2015 0:29:43 GMT -5
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 25, 2015 0:29:43 GMT -5
Your back tire is low, also, it appears. You need to check that. It does look low . |
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by: geh3333 - Jun 25, 2015 0:41:32 GMT -5
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Post by geh3333 on Jun 25, 2015 0:41:32 GMT -5
Thanks guys, still not sure what happened. The stand was in it's proper stowed position when she took off and the spring works fine. Now i come to find out she was taking a left turn...but at 5-10mph i still don't see how anything could have scraped the ground unless she was already headed in that direction. I'm really going to have to chalk this one up to rider error/inexperience until i can proper ride it myself and see if i can duplicate the circumstance. I figure i should have everything properly repaired by next week. *that picture was when i received the scoot, tire is fixed **I'll try and get a better picture of the muffler in the next couple of days...it must be stock though as no one has modded the scoot at all. At 5 to 10 mph its hard to lean that far for the arm of the center stand to scrap, so she may have been on her way to the ground. There is a very small hill by my house , the hill turns near the right near the top and keeps turning as you go down the other side. The hill itself is not level " from left to right " and as you turn the road leans the opposite way you lean into the turn , causing a very dangerous situation for the center stand arm. As I was leaning into the turn , the arm was getting closer to the rd , and the road itself was raising towards the arm causing it to scrap . thats what caused me to remove the center stand. It didn't take much for the center stand to hit the road. I do lean pretty good sometimes , but when you have something uncommon happen , it can be just enough to cause a very dangerous situation. I wasnt taking the chance of it happening again. I'm sure that's not the only rd that has this " special feature ",, lol |
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Post by mftic on Jun 27, 2015 13:21:03 GMT -5
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