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by: onelove2holdone2 - Apr 20, 2015 19:04:40 GMT -5
Post by onelove2holdone2 on Apr 20, 2015 19:04:40 GMT -5
100cc bbk with 80 cc head,12in rim,new variator w/5 gram rollers, 17/49 gears,high flow pipe,no rev cdi box, 23mm carb w/ jets high air flow filter ...... im topping out at 40mph (wot) ? i should be going at least 55 or 60 with all this up grades what am i doing wrong? im like 165 pounds and sad part is my friend has a 80 cc kit and blows me away toping out at 60 mph..... can some one please help me and let me know what im doing wrong and what i can do to change the top end speed to faster....its like i never touch the motor like its stuck in stock mode... pulling hills isnt a problem just top end speed....i need some info bad thanks guys for your help |
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Post by tvnacman on Apr 20, 2015 20:13:42 GMT -5
what are your RPM's?
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by: geh3333 - Apr 20, 2015 20:20:01 GMT -5
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Post by geh3333 on Apr 20, 2015 20:20:01 GMT -5
Great question , the rpms can tell a lot about what you may need to do . tuning the CVT is very important . if hills are no problem , your rpms may be too high . if the weights in the variator are too light you will not get good climb out of the variator and belt. All you will have is a scoot that gets up to speed quick but tops out at a low speed. What gears and weights is your friend using , and does he have the same variator ? |
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Post by ramblinman on Apr 20, 2015 20:51:23 GMT -5
yes, great question. 5gram seems too light for 165lb rider. if you don't have a rpm gauge then i would install one. if everything else is working well on your scoot then i would suspect heavier weights will give you more performance. |
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by: onelove2holdone2 - Apr 20, 2015 21:53:06 GMT -5
Post by onelove2holdone2 on Apr 20, 2015 21:53:06 GMT -5
im not sure about my rpm my scooter dosnt show them so im not sure ? take off is kinda fast but the speed is toping out at 40mph and my friend i think he is useing 8g rollers not sure ? i wish i could fix this asap before the heat comes...im in VA and i like to get the town to let all the guys race there scooters i my self am NEED FOR SPEED...so guys what can i do now that i dont know my rpm? also my friend is useing stock gears and rollers so im guessing 8g rollers.....im useing 5g rollers with 17/49 gears |
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by: onelove2holdone2 - Apr 20, 2015 21:57:42 GMT -5
Post by onelove2holdone2 on Apr 20, 2015 21:57:42 GMT -5
you said install a rpm gage is this something you can get for a scooter and where? i was told lighter wights give you top end so i just bought 5g rollers what would you suggest ?
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Post by ramblinman on Apr 20, 2015 22:16:16 GMT -5
you said install a rpm gage is this something you can get for a scooter and where? i was told lighter wights give you top end so i just bought 5g rollers what would you suggest ? heavier riders require lighter rollers. i'm 220 n 5gram was a bit too light in my 50cc scoot. this is the tach i bought for my atm-50: www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0031BH2VA/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1i'm not certain what size weights most people your size use but i'm certain the average is way above 5gram. a tachometer will help you tune your scoot to get the most out of it. |
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by: geh3333 - Apr 20, 2015 22:32:22 GMT -5
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Post by geh3333 on Apr 20, 2015 22:32:22 GMT -5
It sounds as if you need heavier weights . Its a tunning process . sometimes lighter weights will give you better top end and sometimes heavier weights will give you better top end . too light or too heavy will kill top end
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Post by ramblinman on Apr 20, 2015 22:38:43 GMT -5
you get the most out of these engines with rpm's near 7,500. maybe someone with your weight will chime in with their roller weight size but in the meantime get a tachometer.
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by: onelove2holdone2 - Apr 21, 2015 21:00:16 GMT -5
Post by onelove2holdone2 on Apr 21, 2015 21:00:16 GMT -5
tnk you guys i just found out the variator i just ordered came with 4 gram sliders in the add it said 5 gram rollers so now i belive after reading everything you guys has told me it looks like i maybe placeing another order for sliders and a tech...
it cost so much for sliders but if i want a scooter at top speed ill fork the cash out....i do belive 4 gram sliders is going to kill my rpm i was asking today about that the question was ( if the rollers are way to light will my rpms go up and blow my motor ) ? like you one of you said get a tech and thats on my list to do. so 7500 rpm is a goot spot for my scooter with the mods i got going ? also i got 17/49 gears what gear should i go with to help top end speed ? thank you all
GEH3333 this is for you.......i seen the mods you did to yours i also have a jonway salona delux can i do the same mods you did to yours and do mine the same way and do i need to change the crank im running stock.....also if you think you could hook me up with web address to all the parts that would be great or you can text them to me if you like
540-200-9322
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Post by onewheeldrive on Apr 21, 2015 21:59:32 GMT -5
Wow 4g weights are RIDICULOUSLY light for you and that scoot! Try like 6.5-7g at least. I would weigh them. Maybe check your spark plug too. # seems lean for an 80cc(aka 100) with a free flow filter AND pipe. I could be wrong though so don't hold me to it, since your carb is much bigger than mine-- IDK.. |
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by: geh3333 - Apr 22, 2015 21:57:56 GMT -5
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Post by geh3333 on Apr 22, 2015 21:57:56 GMT -5
tnk you guys i just found out the variator i just ordered came with 4 gram sliders in the add it said 5 gram rollers so now i belive after reading everything you guys has told me it looks like i maybe placeing another order for sliders and a tech... it cost so much for sliders but if i want a scooter at top speed ill fork the cash out....i do belive 4 gram sliders is going to kill my rpm i was asking today about that the question was ( if the rollers are way to light will my rpms go up and blow my motor ) ? like you one of you said get a tech and thats on my list to do. so 7500 rpm is a goot spot for my scooter with the mods i got going ? also i got 17/49 gears what gear should i go with to help top end speed ? thank you all GEH3333 this is for you.......i seen the mods you did to yours i also have a jonway salona delux can i do the same mods you did to yours and do mine the same way and do i need to change the crank im running stock.....also if you think you could hook me up with web address to all the parts that would be great or you can text them to me if you like 540-200-9322 I still have a stock crank , it now has around 18-19k miles on it. Most of my parts came from eBay , from seller " gy6racingteam " . they have very good quality parts for very good prices. The exhaust was a cheaper eBay exhaust , I'm not sure what seller I bought it from ,but I had to do a little modifying on the header pipe to get it to fit right. As for the main engine components "gy6racingteam " is great and fast free shipping. If you have any questions just let me know . I can text you if its easier. |
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by: onelove2holdone2 - Apr 26, 2015 15:58:52 GMT -5
Post by onelove2holdone2 on Apr 26, 2015 15:58:52 GMT -5
okguys i took some advice from you guys and got me a tach from northern hardwear $89.00 bucks kinda high but works good, anyways i put a new variator with 4 gram rollers kinda light....on stright road rpms range 8310 and up hill 6310....
i got 6 1/2 rollers on order thought i would try to meet in the middle of things and i also have 5 gram rollers on the way also....so far pulling is awsome and the speed toping out about 45mph still kinda slow for 100cc kit. i also have 1k torqe spring and 1k cluch springs on the way hopeing this will change alot....
so guys any idea what i could do now with what ive done so far? i really like to thank you guys for helping me out with this thing.....one more thing be for i go...changing the cluch springs and torqe spring what will this do to my scoospeed ECT ? ? ? I also found a nos kit pretty cool thing for looks and a turbo kit thinking about buying these toys for bragging rights lol plus ill be the only one around my town with NOS and TURBO on a scooter.....ok guys hit me with what you know and thank you so much.....
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by: onelove2holdone2 - Apr 26, 2015 16:00:22 GMT -5
Post by onelove2holdone2 on Apr 26, 2015 16:00:22 GMT -5
that would be great if you could text me i couldnt find that saler you was talking about on ebay thanks bro
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by: onelove2holdone2 - Apr 26, 2015 16:02:15 GMT -5
Post by onelove2holdone2 on Apr 26, 2015 16:02:15 GMT -5
geh3333 that would be great if you could text me the info like to build my scoot like yours bro sounds like fun
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jets high air flow filter ......
