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Post by wamgaming on Apr 18, 2015 15:33:22 GMT -5
Ok my last forum got really long and i tried all the suggested things and found out more. Thought I would condense them into one list of everything I have tested and found out. Here is my problem - I get nothing when I turn the key. Some things I have tried and found out - - I have continuity through the positive on the battery to the positive side of the starter solenoid. ( that wire is good) - I have checked the fuse on the starter solenoid with a volt meter. That is good! - battery is reading 13.0v (so I know that's not the problem) - I can read continuity to the negative wire on the key switch to the negative side of the battery. So negative wire does not seem to be the issue. - I took off the wires connected to the break switch and connected them and when I do, I get continuity though the positive and negative wires on the key switch. (Not sure if that's right but I have tried having them not touch as well. Does change the readings that I get. - I have disconnected the kill switch wire directly from the cdi itself, so that can not be the problem! - I have a good ground and can verify that with a volt meter What I still don't get? - the starter solenoid has 3 different wires going to it or from it. All 3 make my light tester go off except the prong going to the positive wire in the key switch. I get a reading of 13v at all the connections except that one. Could that be my problem? Bad starter solenoid? Although I don't get a 13v reading at the accessory wire either? Help please Pictures - Key switch wires Starter solenoid
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Post by ramblinman on Apr 18, 2015 16:03:35 GMT -5
can you start it by jumping the solenoid?
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Post by wamgaming on Apr 18, 2015 16:04:13 GMT -5
can you start it by jumping the solenoid? When I jump the solenoid the motor turns over but I do not have spark.
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Post by lain on Apr 18, 2015 16:05:14 GMT -5
Just because you have continuity doesn't mean the wire is good. That is the thing about doing that test with scooters. That just proves there is a connection between the 2 ends. It does not prove it can carry large loads of electricity like for the starter.
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Post by wamgaming on Apr 18, 2015 16:07:24 GMT -5
Just because you have continuity doesn't mean the wire is good. That is the thing about doing that test with scooters. That just proves there is a connection between the 2 ends. It does not prove it can carry large loads of electricity like for the starter. I think the problem has to do with the starter solenoid not giving power to the lead that goes to the positive on the key switch. I test it directly from the starter solenoid and do not get any reading. Shouldn't I be getting 13v. The other prongs give off 13v.
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Post by ramblinman on Apr 18, 2015 16:09:01 GMT -5
can you start it by jumping the solenoid? When I jump the solenoid the motor turns over but I do not have spark. i'm a noob with electronic's so probably don't want to take too much advice from me on this subject... it appears you had some help in the other thread and were unsuccessful at finding the problem. with that said... are you certain the wire you removed from the cdi isn't the cause of your problem? is it possible to hook up that wire to be certain? that's all i got for you. good luck!
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Post by lain on Apr 18, 2015 16:13:07 GMT -5
Not sure how you have your system wired up, but if you mean the wire that goes from the ignition/starter button to the solenoid I think it should read about the same as the other positives. Unless maybe you have a solenoid that works a different way. Your system does look a little bit more complicated than a scooter. On scooter solenoids we have a wire that connects to the solenoid from the starter button that sends a signal to the solenoid to tell it to send electricity to the starter motor.
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Post by wamgaming on Apr 18, 2015 16:19:02 GMT -5
Not sure how you have your system wired up, but if you mean the wire that goes from the ignition/starter button to the solenoid I think it should read about the same as the other positives. Unless maybe you have a solenoid that works a different way. Your system does look a little bit more complicated than a scooter. On scooter solenoids we have a wire that connects to the solenoid from the starter button that sends a signal to the solenoid to tell it to send electricity to the starter motor. Does the key switch always receive 13v though at the positive?
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Post by tvnacman on Apr 18, 2015 17:23:52 GMT -5
check for power at the 3 wires at the ignition switch. Where does the blue wire go? where does the greek/yellow go? Where does the solid green go? I think you might be switching ground. wamgaming John
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Post by wamgaming on Apr 18, 2015 18:45:26 GMT -5
check for power at the 3 wires at the ignition switch. Where does the blue wire go? where does the greek/yellow go? Where does the solid green go? I think you might be switching ground. wamgaming John Ok so I figured out the problem. The person before me must ha e wired the starter solenoid wrong or it could be broken. Only two of the 4 prongs give 13v power. I flipped the plug so one of the two working 13v switches goes to the ignition and bam power to headlights horn turn signals. Now I got to figure out why the electric fuel pump is making a weird rattle when I plug in the starter solenoid plug.
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Post by tvnacman on Apr 18, 2015 19:15:17 GMT -5
reverse the wires on the solenoid see if that makes a difference.
John
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