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Post by devinchasteen15 on Apr 5, 2015 13:59:56 GMT -5
Someone tried to steal my cousins scooter and ripped most of the ignition out cut up the back of the ignition wires then retaped them cut the battery cables so he gave it to me because he doesn't have time to repair it. It is a peace sports tpgs 804 50cc it has a 4 pin ignition (I ordered one already).
When ever I connect the battery with a positive cable from the solenoid to the battery and a ground cable from the motor to battery the only things that work are the horn, speedo light, brake light stays on When I push the starter button nothing happens not even a click . does the starter button not work if the ignition is missing? I'm confused on if the ignition will fix this problem or do I need more parts. Please help
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Apr 5, 2015 14:04:38 GMT -5
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Apr 5, 2015 14:10:16 GMT -5
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Apr 5, 2015 14:12:01 GMT -5
Also i found a four pin connecter with White, blue, brown and green wires not connected to anything
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Apr 5, 2015 14:12:44 GMT -5
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Apr 5, 2015 14:13:09 GMT -5
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Post by lain on Apr 5, 2015 15:22:20 GMT -5
You need an ignition switch to use the electric starter. You can also try to bridge the terminals on the solenoid, but that is a last resort, it can be very dangerous, if you have a fuel leak even fatal!
What the thief did was try to bypass the ignition by connecting the terminals how they are supposed to connect when the switch is turned to on with the key.
They probably have little to no experience with scooters on a REAL level, and did not know you didn't have to mutilate the wires to bypass it and kick it you just disconnect the wires and kick it to life.
WHAT TO DO: You should disconnect the old ignition switch from the connector spot until the new ignition switch arrives. Then try to kickstart it by holding the brake, put the kill-switch to engine run position, and kick it sort of gently, a good engine will start within 3 kicks usually. If it doesn't start there may be other issues with it.
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Apr 5, 2015 16:27:46 GMT -5
lain I'm confused haha I just put another starter solenoid on pushed the starter button and she came straight to life. Another thing that is confusing me is its starting with out a battery to frame ground? I really wasent expecting it to work
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Post by lain on Apr 5, 2015 16:33:43 GMT -5
lain I'm confused haha I just put another starter solenoid on pushed the starter button and she came straight to life. Another thing that is confusing me is its starting with out a battery to frame ground? I really wasent expecting it to work It may have just had a bad solenoid all along and maybe that is what prevented the thief from riding it away. That scoot did not want to be stolen haha. Don't let it run or start without proper grounding, you'll end up frying a lot of stuff which will in turn force you to replace things. You can get a spool of 12 gauge wire for around $10, which is substantially less in comparison to any part or combination of parts you would have to replace when they fry. Add grounding wire to the battery and the frame, and check for anything else that may be wacky, like missing ground for the valve cover or the starter motor. |
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Apr 5, 2015 16:36:56 GMT -5
lain I'm confused haha I just put another starter solenoid on pushed the starter button and she came straight to life. Another thing that is confusing me is its starting with out a battery to frame ground? I really wasent expecting it to work It may have just had a bad solenoid all along and maybe that is what prevented the thief from riding it away. That scoot did not want to be stolen haha. Don't let it run or start without proper grounding, you'll end up frying a lot of stuff which will in turn force you to replace things. You can get a spool of 12 gauge wire for around $10, which is substantially less in comparison to any part or combination of parts you would have to replace when they fry. Add grounding wire to the battery and the frame, and check for anything else that may be wacky, like missing ground for the valve cover or the starter motor. Thanks so much. I didn't think it was right to not have the battery to frame ground I'm going to get it taken care of as soon as possible. |
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Post by devinchasteen15 on Apr 5, 2015 16:37:24 GMT -5
Also lain do you know what that connecter would go to? |
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Post by lain on Apr 5, 2015 16:39:36 GMT -5
Also lain do you know what that connecter would go to? Not sure, I don't have one of those, but I have seen one of those on a friend's scoot and it was also just hanging around not connected to anything and everything worked fine. My guess is it may be an accessory hookup or something else extra, obviously not needed for it to run since it ran for you already. |
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Post by wilds on Apr 6, 2015 1:17:22 GMT -5
The connector might be for the front lights...
Blue wire should be for high beam.
White wire should be for low beam.
Brown wire should be for parking lights.
Green wire should be ground.
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