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Post by JerryScript on Mar 11, 2015 13:35:22 GMT -5
This is an awesome video, takes them awhile, but the bikers save the day!
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Post by wheelbender6 on Mar 11, 2015 19:58:21 GMT -5
That's great that they saved the dog from a vehicular demise. That little pooch was fast!
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Post by rockynv on Mar 12, 2015 4:49:14 GMT -5
Nice that they succeeded however it could have turned out badly for them if the cars behind them could not stop in time and there were damages or injuries. In the past year or so there was a woman who stopped for similar and caused a big pileup resulting in charges being levied against her for stopping along with fines and I believe loss of her license. Don't remember all the details too clearly.
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Post by JerryScript on Mar 12, 2015 16:34:28 GMT -5
Nice that they succeeded however it could have turned out badly for them if the cars behind them could not stop in time and there were damages or injuries. In the past year or so there was a woman who stopped for similar and caused a big pileup resulting in charges being levied against her for stopping along with fines and I believe loss of her license. Don't remember all the details too clearly. That's what makes these guys, and that lady, heroes. Saving a life, human or animal, while putting your own safety at risk, no better definition of hero I can think of!
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Post by tvnacman on Mar 12, 2015 17:10:18 GMT -5
That was very nice !!!!!!
in some country's they may have been chasing dinner .
John
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Post by rockynv on Mar 13, 2015 0:10:55 GMT -5
Nice that they succeeded however it could have turned out badly for them if the cars behind them could not stop in time and there were damages or injuries. In the past year or so there was a woman who stopped for similar and caused a big pileup resulting in charges being levied against her for stopping along with fines and I believe loss of her license. Don't remember all the details too clearly. That's what makes these guys, and that lady, heroes. Saving a life, human or animal, while putting your own safety at risk, no better definition of hero I can think of! You could be found guilty of public endangerment for doing that as others have been. You have to consider more than just the animal but the other drivers on the roadway who could crash when you run after a dog or other small animal on a street. If one of the bikers had fallen over the barrier and into the path of traffic in the express lanes there could have been quite a pile up with a large human toll which is what the laws the police will be enforcing are trying to prevent. Yes I care for animals and have pets of my own and its wonderful that they were able to rescue the dog however they potentially risked more than their own lives in doing so. My wife would risk killing all the passengers in her van and anyone in her path to save even a squirrel and she can't understand that when you get behind the wheel your primary obligation is to your passengers along with other people on the roadway and adjacent areas. You have to consider what you are risking when you put other people in danger as people live 70 to 80 years or so. When you endanger a minivan full of say six 10 year old children to save an animal you are risking potentially 480 years of their collective lives to save the remaining 5 or so years of an animals. Even when rescuing a person the first rule in our responder training is to make the scene safe and only proceed if your action at an unsafe scene puts only you yourself or only those that agree to accept the unsafe situation at risk. They were very fortunate that no drivers lost control and crashed trying to stop for them.
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Post by mopojo on Mar 13, 2015 6:59:39 GMT -5
I do understand risk assessment: Sometimes we act from the gut. Is any more effective than the other? I mean: Other than hypothetical statistics? I feel that the way we choose to live our lives dictates that we think about self-preservation only (we have our own agendas). I have a "god"-given right to breath unpolluted air. Why must I breath exhaust infested air? Wonder where risk assessment fit into this scheme of things? Exactly why I need to find the source of my smokin' moped. ![:P](http://www.itistheride.com/smiley/smile/11.gif) I am one that will stop the world (as it were) to let that ladybug live a few more seconds. The rest of you can fend for yourselves. Oh: Don't interfere with my zen. Thanks ![P-)](http://www.itistheride.com/smiley/smile/25.gif)
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Post by rockynv on Mar 14, 2015 0:56:31 GMT -5
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 14, 2015 7:14:37 GMT -5
You know, any way you act, you can be hit.
-You stop to save the dog/goose/cow/whatever, traffic behind you might rear-end you. -You merely stop to not hit the whatever, traffic behind you might rear-end you. -You don't stop, you might end up hitting the whatever, and traffic behind you might rear-end you.
The point in this video was the numbers of bikers involved. Some had stopped traffic while others worked to catch the dog. Did you notice when the dog bolted towards the other lanes, that the one rider stood at the side of traffic and held out his hand to stop the cars? He didn't just step in front of the cars. Neither did the guy after the dog. So they were keeping their own safety in mind, even as they went after the dog. But having more than just yourself involved does drop the risks.
You just have to evaluate each situation and decide what's the best action that causes the least risk to the most.
>'Kat--and yes, we do sometimes get cows on our interstates hereabouts. Always the potential for an exciting drive in KC!
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Post by JerryScript on Mar 14, 2015 17:11:33 GMT -5
You know, any way you act, you can be hit. -You stop to save the dog/goose/cow/whatever, traffic behind you might rear-end you. -You merely stop to not hit the whatever, traffic behind you might rear-end you. -You don't stop, you might end up hitting the whatever, and traffic behind you might rear-end you. The point in this video was the numbers of bikers involved. Some had stopped traffic while others worked to catch the dog. Did you notice when the dog bolted towards the other lanes, that the one rider stood at the side of traffic and held out his hand to stop the cars? He didn't just step in front of the cars. Neither did the guy after the dog. So they were keeping their own safety in mind, even as they went after the dog. But having more than just yourself involved does drop the risks. You just have to evaluate each situation and decide what's the best action that causes the least risk to the most. >'Kat--and yes, we do sometimes get cows on our interstates hereabouts. Always the potential for an exciting drive in KC! I never ran into any cows on the highways around KC, but I did find myself incredibly lost when attempting to find Lansing the first time I drove there to visit my parents years ago. I made a wrong turn somewhere between the turnpike exit and Lansing, ended up asking directions from a nice man in an orange jump suit. Found out later I had driven right through a minimum security work farm, but that man in the jump suit was still as nice as could be, even the criminals are kind in Kansas!
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 14, 2015 21:21:08 GMT -5
...., even the criminals are kind in Kansas! Well, not all of them. 20/20 just did a piece on the Grandview Triangle shooter. He was most definitely not kind to strangers on the road. Although apparently he was very kind in person, when not behind a steering wheel or alongside interstates. And the cows usually have escaped from the truck taking them to become hamburgers. Always makes me wonder if those cows shouldn't just get to live happy old-age cow lives. >'Kat
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