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Post by JerryScript on Jan 8, 2015 14:41:25 GMT -5
Finishing up with fixing up my old scooter in anticipation of giving it to my nephew when my new one arrives. Put a new belt on it, and it feels like a new scooter again! Didn't realize just how much it was slipping, that gradual wear sneaks up on you. Got 2-3mph back on the top end as well. I don't know why I thought standard replacement mileage was 3k, after changing it I noticed my dealer's suggested maintenance slip under my seat stating belts should be changed every 1.5k. Glad mine didn't snap on me, but there was a bunch of threads clogging up my kickstarter gears I had to pull out, yuck!
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Post by shalomdawg on Jan 8, 2015 15:40:24 GMT -5
howdy and wow. i bought the piaggio cause the maintainance was less frequent according to factory rec's. i put 13,000 on the belt and it was seemingly like new though the rollers were badly worn.. since i can't do the replacement myself, that would be a very expensive scooter for me to replace the belt at the dealer every 1,500 i would now be on my tenth belt!
this is just comment not disrespect.
lotsa miles and smiles to y'all
ken
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Post by tvnacman on Jan 8, 2015 15:51:20 GMT -5
Jerry , I would have overhauled the clutch and variator . I would have flushed out the old grease with fresh grease . Cleaned the the pulley sleeves and greased and pivot points . Sand the pads and bell , Clean the variator , grease the crank and clutch shafts , Lightly grease the boss .
Then you know everything is fresh and moving nice .
John
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 8, 2015 16:50:32 GMT -5
Finishing up with fixing up my old scooter in anticipation of giving it to my nephew when my new one arrives. Put a new belt on it, and it feels like a new scooter again! Didn't realize just how much it was slipping, that gradual wear sneaks up on you. Got 2-3mph back on the top end as well. I don't know why I thought standard replacement mileage was 3k, after changing it I noticed my dealer's suggested maintenance slip under my seat stating belts should be changed every 1.5k. Glad mine didn't snap on me, but there was a bunch of threads clogging up my kickstarter gears I had to pull out, yuck! Yeh I use the gates powerlink aramid "Kevlar" belts and I change them every 2000 miles . it def makes a dif having a new belt in . my rpms usually rise as the belt wears and considering I have my scoot tuned to run at 7500 at top speed ",on a straight run " and I do not like to redline , I usually have to counter the higher rpms with heavier roller weights . After I change the rollers a couple times I usually buy a new belt . I have nearly 20 extra belts I have just in case I ever snap one . hasn't happened yet " at least not with the gates belts " |
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Post by rcq92130 on Jan 8, 2015 17:15:56 GMT -5
NEW BELT  ?? Uh oh. There goes another valve !!!!!!!! |
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 8, 2015 17:27:52 GMT -5
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 8, 2015 17:32:14 GMT -5
Jerry , I would have overhauled the clutch and variator . I would have flushed out the old grease with fresh grease . Cleaned the the pulley sleeves and greased and pivot points . Sand the pads and bell , Clean the variator , grease the crank and clutch shafts , Lightly grease the boss . Then you know everything is fresh and moving nice . John I'm thinking that should be a project I supervise with my nephew when I hand this scooter down to him. He has been riding a GoPed for the past year, and he's been itching to get his own scooter since his brother did. No better way to learn how to inspect and maintain the CVT than for me to make him do this bit of maintenance!  |
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 8, 2015 17:39:37 GMT -5
howdy and wow. i bought the piaggio cause the maintainance was less frequent according to factory rec's. i put 13,000 on the belt and it was seemingly like new though the rollers were badly worn.. since i can't do the replacement myself, that would be a very expensive scooter for me to replace the belt at the dealer every 1,500 i would now be on my tenth belt! this is just comment not disrespect. lotsa miles and smiles to y'all ken I imagine the dealer's suggested interval is faster than the factory's. Unfortunately, the owner's manual doesn't list an interval for the drive belt. It has a chart that lists all periodic maintenance, and has the drive belt listed, but no interval checked off. I guess visual inspection every oil change is probably the safest way to go. |
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Post by lain on Jan 9, 2015 12:42:37 GMT -5
I just use kevlar belts as well. It is kind of a necessity in Boston, the hilly terrain destroys belts here, not to mention the potholes, the INCLINES of most of the hills being more than you would be able to stand on comfortably, how they put houses on these hills I have no idea! I see peoples cars in their driveways or on the streets parked and look like they could fall over if a good wind hits them, I've actually seen it happen once too it was crazy!
I use a ruler and measure the belt width every now and then. when it loses about a mm I change it. I keep a tiny piece of a clothing tape measure in my scoot just in case. I also carry an electric impact wrench that can be powered by the scooter battery and a replacement belt when I go on long trips, never had to use it yet (I know I just jynxed myself) but good to have it and not need it than to need it and not have it.
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 9, 2015 12:58:49 GMT -5
Great thing about having that 12v impact wrench, I changed my belt right there as Scrappy's were I bought it. Took 5 minutes, could have done it in less, but my pit crew skills are not what they once were.
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Post by ricardoguitars on Jan 9, 2015 15:52:47 GMT -5
I use a pulley clamp and a standard ratchet wrench that I always carry under the seat to remove the variator and clutch on the road. A car cross wrench works great too, no very portable though
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Post by hillbillybob on Jan 10, 2015 10:04:34 GMT -5
  Yep, Gates to replace whatever was stock. I'm very glad I didn't bust the stock one with so many miles on it. Giving my big nephew a few rides during the heat of the Vegas summer didn't help too much either I imagine! I don't believe a belt should have to be replaced as often as you stated. Of course overloading your scooter, and Vegas temperatures will shorten a belt's life....but a 1500 mile change interval still doesn't sound right to me. I would think that something else was going on under your cvt cover, to necessitate a belt change that often. My Jonway 150 will be getting a new belt before this years scooter season starts. The original was replaced with a Gates Powerlink on July 28, 2012.....since then it has run 4805 miles, and I'm certain is worn, but it doesn't showing signs of coming apart. I'm not as big as your nephew, but close....and I do live in hilly country, so my belt is worked pretty hard...and I expect to get 5000 miles from them.. PS: Really like your new scooter....it's a beauty |
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 10, 2015 10:17:24 GMT -5
A stock belt "if not gates or bando " should be changed within 2000 miles . in my opinion it should be changed before you even put 1 mile on it , use it as a spare in case the gates belt suddenly snaps on you " which is rare" . I suspect a gates Kevlar will last upward of 10,000 miles on a stock scoot , however a scoot with a bigger bore with all of the upgrades will have a good bit more Horse power and if your running something like a 2000 rpm main clutch spring and stronger clutch arm springs you will cut the life of the drive belt significantly . I change my gates Kevlar usually before or around 2000 miles. I also ride the scoot pretty hard and I also weight around 210-220 lbs. So I would say it varies for every scoot depending on many factors for when one should change his drive belt.
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Post by dyoung1167 on Jan 12, 2015 19:47:03 GMT -5
my first scooter blasted belts. literally shredded, about every 1-3 months. i was putting roughly 80 miles a day during the week then whatever on the weekends but it still drove me nuts and blamed it on the belts sucking even though they were bando. it was after a new scoot a year later i realized the variator was just a touch out of square with the clutch pulley causing excessive wear.
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 13, 2015 1:40:14 GMT -5
I have three scooters sitting in my garage, with original owners manuals. Each has the same maintenance chart, with nothing marked for belt change interval, just a blank row. One of the manuals in our tech forum lists 7k as the proper interval, for a stock scooter of course. I'm not surprised I needed a new belt in half that time, considering the mods I have, and the number of rides I've taken over GVWR.
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