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Post by adamjthompson on Jan 2, 2015 19:09:13 GMT -5
I'm planning to buy a 50cc scooter for short commutes in town. Sounds like it's a good idea to buy from a local shop for parts/repairs. I have shops near me that sell Wolf Brand (formerly Gorilla Motor Works), Bintelli, & Puma. Another option I'm considering is buying a used Yamaha, Honda, or Italian brand. Any input or suggestions?
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 2, 2015 19:15:01 GMT -5
What is your price range? A decent Bintelli or Puma is going to run you around $1500. You can get used Hondas or Yamahas for about the same price, but who knows what headaches you would inherit. If you don't mind wrenching, you can get a decent Znen (they make many of the higher end chinese models that are rebranded under many names) for less than a grand.
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Post by dmartin95 on Jan 2, 2015 20:34:21 GMT -5
I'm planning to buy a 50cc scooter for short commutes in town. Sounds like it's a good idea to buy from a local shop for parts/repairs. I have shops near me that sell Wolf Brand (formerly Gorilla Motor Works), Bintelli, & Puma. Another option I'm considering is buying a used Yamaha, Honda, or Italian brand. Any input or suggestions? Early Spring of 2014 I purchased a Bintelli Scorch 50cc.... It was awesome! Never had a single problem with it. However, I live out in the country with a long and open roads.... All the roads around here are 55 mph.... Felt like I was gonna get ran over so I had to upgrade to a 150cc... I was going to get a Bintelli Scorch 150cc, however, none of the dealers had one in stock, but I came across a dealer who said he would sell me a Bintelli Havoc 150cc at the same price.. So I jumped on the deal.... The Bintelli Havoc 150cc is an awesome scooter... It comes with a bunch of upgrades that Scooters like TaoTao do not. Gates Kevlar belt, NGK plug, Duro Tires, and all the vacuum/fuel lines are name brand, etc etc....... I've only been able to put 1300 miles on it this summer, however, I always have instant starts, smooth idle and for a 150cc, this sucker is fast! I hit 62MPH on level surface. I really think Bintelli does not belong in the "Chinese Scooter" category. Of course I have a Biased opinion because I own a couple Bintellis now... But I got that Bias from riding a reliable scooter. Bintellis cost a little more than the drop ship brands, but IMO, the extra money is worth it.....
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Post by JerryScript on Jan 2, 2015 21:21:01 GMT -5
I know Bintelli started carrying Adleys this past year, but I think the models you are talking about are all Znen manufactured for Bintelli. I'm almost positive the Scorch is, not sure about the Havoc. Great thing about Bintelli is you get a dealer network and a decent warranty.
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Post by dmartin95 on Jan 3, 2015 0:16:16 GMT -5
Yes, the Scorch and Havocs, all three had ZNEN motors.
MY wifes, 150cc BMS Heritage also has ZNEN motor and all have been great running engines.... All the 150's are stamped BN157QMJ and the 50cc scorch was stamped BN139QMB.
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Post by Bintelli - Justin on Jan 10, 2015 20:37:05 GMT -5
I'm planning to buy a 50cc scooter for short commutes in town. Sounds like it's a good idea to buy from a local shop for parts/repairs. I have shops near me that sell Wolf Brand (formerly Gorilla Motor Works), Bintelli, & Puma. Another option I'm considering is buying a used Yamaha, Honda, or Italian brand. Any input or suggestions? That's a great question. While all three brands are made by the same factory, they all differ a bit. Firstly, Puma closed up shop last year, so getting parts for that brand may start to get a bit difficult. Some dealers still have stock and are selling them for good prices. We at Bintelli are proud to have one of the better dealer networks in the country. Our dealers stand behind their sales and do a great job of representing our brand well. All of our scooters come with manufacture backed warranties and are fully loaded with upgraded components. You can't go wrong with a Bintelli scooter, no matter which model you wind up with. If you have any specific questions on our particular models, please let me know and I'd be happy to assist you. Have a great weekend.
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Post by scooter on Jan 11, 2015 0:10:19 GMT -5
If you have any specific questions on our particular models, please let me know and I'd be happy to assist you. Have a great weekend. Justin, I am learning to repair scooters. Can you tell me what kind of training and background good scooter repair people tend to have? Small engine repair, motorcycle mechanics, auto mechanics, etc?
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Post by Bintelli - Justin on Jan 11, 2015 9:29:20 GMT -5
If you have any specific questions on our particular models, please let me know and I'd be happy to assist you. Have a great weekend. Justin, I am learning to repair scooters. Can you tell me what kind of training and background good scooter repair people tend to have? Small engine repair, motorcycle mechanics, auto mechanics, etc? I wouldn't say there is any standard. I've hired employees with no experience and trained them and we've hired really experienced guys. The most important thing is just general knowledge of how engines and electrical systems work. If you know the concept behind engines running, being calibrated, etc, then you can learn anything. Scooter engines are very easy to work on for those who understand the concepts. Understanding the "Why" will help you to troubleshoot and find a solution faster. When all else fails, get your hands dirty - rip things apart and put them back together again. Get an internship with a local shop to get some experience if no paying jobs are available. As a follow up, here's two videos you can watch to get yourself started: How to do an oil change: How to do a valve adjustment:
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Post by scooter on Jan 11, 2015 11:26:08 GMT -5
Justin, I am learning to repair scooters. Can you tell me what kind of training and background good scooter repair people tend to have? Small engine repair, motorcycle mechanics, auto mechanics, etc? I wouldn't say there is any standard. I've hired employees with no experience and trained them and we've hired really experienced guys. The most important thing is just general knowledge of how engines and electrical systems work. If you know the concept behind engines running, being calibrated, etc, then you can learn anything. Scooter engines are very easy to work on for those who understand the concepts. Understanding the "Why" will help you to troubleshoot and find a solution faster. When all else fails, get your hands dirty - rip things apart and put them back together again. Get an internship with a local shop to get some experience if no paying jobs are available. As a follow up, here's two videos you can watch to get yourself started: How to do an oil change: How to do a valve adjustment: Thank you. I'm definitely getting my hands dirty and learning fast thanks to everyone at itistheride, youtube, and other websites. I also have a question about becoming a scooter dealer. Can you tell me how people become dealers, and what is involved? Is there a big investment, special licenses, etc?
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Post by jerseyboy on Jan 11, 2015 11:42:22 GMT -5
Im curious as well to become a small dealer for Taotao and SYM someday for supplemental income....
I did talk to Tomos a while back and they said I would have to put out the $$ for 5 new 150 scooters on crates,,it came to $4k around about,,the resale was around $1700 each for them thats $4500 in your pocket,but don't forget you need to do all the PDI and sell them first lol,there is work involved,,I would like to do about 5 a month out of my 12x24 shed here..Tomos said that would be no problem,,just need to cough up four grand..lol
It would be wise to offer two types of quality,,the lower more affordable Taotao then a Tomos or SYM,,best of both worlds.
A very good customer service plan is important,,also servicing and repairing the scoots will be your bread and butter when sales are slow. Offer plans from full service that includes complete inspection,carb adjust,fuel lines/filter,CVT,belt,gear box,oil change,valve inspection adjustment if needed,cables lubed,air filter,plug,brakes,plastics are tight..the list goes on and on...washing/degreasing their scoot is always a good practice in keeping a customer happy too.
Going the extra mile and doing these things correctly will put you above the other shops!
Tom
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Post by scooter on Jan 11, 2015 11:53:43 GMT -5
Im curious as well to become a small dealer for Taotao and SYM someday for supplemental income.... I did talk to Tomos a while back and they said I would have to put out the $$ for 5 new scooters on crates,,it came to $4k around about,,the resale was around $1700 for them,,I would like to do about 5 a month out of my 12x24 shed here..Tomos said that would be no problem,,just need to cough up four grand..lol It would be wise to offer two types of quality,,the lower more affordable Taotao then a Tomos or SYM,,best of both worlds. A very good customer service plan is important,,also servicing and repairing the scoots will be your bread and butter when sales are slow. Offer plans from full service that includes complete inspection,carb adjust,fuel lines/filter,CVT,belt,gear box,oil change,valve inspection adjustment if needed,cables lubed,air filter,plug,brakes,plastics are tight..the list goes on and on...washing/degreasing their scoot is always a good practice in keeping a customer happy too. Going the extra mile and doing these things correctly will put you above the other shops! Tom Right on, man. Good info and advice there. Double your money on those scoots sounds like a good deal if your overhead is low, and doing the job right means having a solid reputation and more dollars down the line.
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Post by dmartin95 on Jan 13, 2015 16:42:52 GMT -5
If you have any specific questions on our particular models, please let me know and I'd be happy to assist you. Have a great weekend. I have a quick question about one of your models. The Bintelli Vibe.... I do not see it on Bintellis website but Grand Rapids Scooter has them on their website. Is this a new or discontinued model? Also, does Bintelli produce this scooter in the 150cc?
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Post by Bintelli - Justin on Jan 13, 2015 22:56:15 GMT -5
If you have any specific questions on our particular models, please let me know and I'd be happy to assist you. Have a great weekend. I have a quick question about one of your models. The Bintelli Vibe.... I do not see it on Bintellis website but Grand Rapids Scooter has them on their website. Is this a new or discontinued model? Also, does Bintelli produce this scooter in the 150cc? We used to produce the Vibe in 150cc, but replaced it with the Valor a year ago, which has been a much better seller. GRS special ordered a batch of them in 50cc, as they are big sellers in their area.
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