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Post by Skunk Shampoo on Dec 8, 2014 4:11:49 GMT -5
Last time I was picking up a part at my local dealership, I noticed a new Honda scooter there. It looks a little different. The style made me think of a maxi scooter that had been squashed back to more of a standard length. The visuals (which honestly didn't grab me) weren't really the thing that struck me, though. The scooter had a large chart next to it comparing different scooters and their fuel economy and this thing gets around 100 mpg! www.fuelly.com/motorcycle/honda/pcx150Granted, this is limited to the confines of a 153cc engine but that sounds really good! Top speed is around 65mph, I think. This is a video review I found on YouTube This seems like a really good scoot for $3,500. Has anyone heard much about these?
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Post by Paladin on Dec 8, 2014 12:03:20 GMT -5
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Post by JerryScript on Dec 8, 2014 13:58:08 GMT -5
Not sure how they can call that a scooter, it has basically no step through at all, much closer to a motorcycle design. That probably improves fuel efficiency a bit, the step through on a scooter is a major wind dam.
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Post by rustic on Dec 8, 2014 16:32:00 GMT -5
I have a 2013 pcx 150. I get from 98 to 108 mpg depending on what kind of riding I am doing. I have had it past 70 mph on the speedometer. There is no step through but I consider it a scooter because I do not have to shift. I have had both a vino classic and a vino 125, this is my favorite scooter.
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Post by oldchopperguy on Dec 14, 2014 16:46:02 GMT -5
VERY sharp!
And, VERY "Honda"... Visually I really like the scooters like this one, which look much like a motorcycle. They look fantastic just sitting still. (Sort of a "crotch-rocket that hasn't fully matured" look). But... For me, arthritis keeps me from being able to climb aboard even a maxi-scoot with a small "semi-hump". HMMM... So I really need a flat-floor, true step-through. As they say, "form follows function" or something like that.
I haven't ridden one of these, but I suspect they are one of the rare 150's that can actually top 60 mph, making them VERY handy for all types of riding, while remaining light, nimble and "scooter-like". Honda makes GOOD stuff. Even back in my Harley days, I had to appreciate what Honda offered. The only thing I balk at is the price. Probably WELL-worth it, but pushing $4K is to me at least, a LOT of money for a 150. I've seen several Honda big V-Twins at my local Honda dealer used, for similar prices. If I could easily mount and dismount a motorcycle, I'd be more likely to pay $4K for a good, used big-bike like that. But I can't realistically get on and off one, so I've come to REALLY appreciate the step-through scooter. Don't even mind their looks anymore... That took a few years of getting used to... LOL!This Honda 150 looks to be a great ride for younger folks who want something on 2-wheels that will do % of any kind of riding needed, and at the same time, look very stylish. Good target-marketing on Honda's part... Sort of a practical scooter for those who want to break out of the generic-scooter mold. And, having ridden a Kymco 163 cc "People 200" I can REALLY endorse the "65 mph GY6 150" concept. It REALLY does do nearly EVERYTHING you need to do, in a light, simple package! And everybody likes nudging that magic 100 mpg fuel-mileage number! My old Xingyue 150 GY6 would only do about 60 mpg in town, and wouldn't run fast enough for highway use. HOWEVER, my "new" old '07 Kymco water-cooled CARBURETED 2-valve dinosaur 250 gives me to mpg gas-mileage in-town and will run 70 mph on the highway. And it's short and light like a 150. I'll bet the modern, FUEL-INJECTED 250's and 300's even from China will top that, AND run 80- mph. And be in that price range, or LESS for Chinese. Mighty tempting!THAT near 100 mpg AND highway speed makes this old geezer a happy step-through camper... LOL!Ride what ya like. Ride what ya need. Ride what ya can afford. And....... RIDE SAFE!Leo in Texas
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Post by zhan on Dec 16, 2014 2:31:14 GMT -5
The Honda PCX 150 was the first scooter I looked at before buying one. I really liked it. Sleek look, fuel injected, bigger wheels, and it's own definite style. I was turned off by the price. $3500 base price, and when they figured in taxes, license and all the dealers other little "fees", it came to a grand total of about $4400 to buy one. I calculated that I would need to ride that thing exclusively all year round for about 6 years for the fuel savings to pay for the scoot. If I could find a used one for about $1500 then I would be in the market for one of them. Though any brand new vehicle you buy causes you to eat a huge amount of depreciation. Whether it's a car, truck, motorcycle, motorhome, etc etc. I say let someone else buy it brand new and let them eat the depreciation. I don't like buying from dealers anyway, just because of all the taxes and "fees" you have to pay. That's my 2 cents anyway.
Dave
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Post by bandito2 on Dec 18, 2014 22:54:38 GMT -5
The Honda PCX 150 was the first scooter I looked at before buying one. I really liked it. Sleek look, fuel injected, bigger wheels, and it's own definite style. I was turned off by the price. $3500 base price, and when they figured in taxes, license and all the dealers other little "fees", it came to a grand total of about $4400 to buy one. I calculated that I would need to ride that thing exclusively all year round for about 6 years for the fuel savings to pay for the scoot. If I could find a used one for about $1500 then I would be in the market for one of them. Though any brand new vehicle you buy causes you to eat a huge amount of depreciation. Whether it's a car, truck, motorcycle, motorhome, etc etc. I say let someone else buy it brand new and let them eat the depreciation. I don't like buying from dealers anyway, just because of all the taxes and "fees" you have to pay. That's my 2 cents anyway. Dave I would need to unload at least 2 of my Reflex scooters before it would be OK to get another scooter. (that is ready to ride) And the PCX would likely be the one I would get. But for the same reasons like zhan stated; it would be a used one where most of the excesses were paid for by the PO. There are 2013s out there already but the prices are still a bit high IMO. I seem to recall that the 2013 is faster and has better fuel economy than the 2015 even though it has a few improvements over the 2013. I think both the 2013 & 2015 are capable of triple digit MPG figures. A Yamaha SMAX would probably get just as good gas mileage too. It might be a longer wait for me to get a used 2015 155cc Yamaha SMAX, but it would be the same deal though.... a used one. Things I like about that one are of course the little bit more oomph the 155cc engine has over the 153cc Honda PCX plus a disk brake on the rear instead of drum brake like the PCX. And the other thing I like is that it might be able to accept a car tire on the rear. (but that's just me) With either bike, I'd probably like a taller windscreen. Meh... I'm more of a Honda kind of guy I guess though I have had a couple Yamaha scooters once upon a time that were just fine. I only ever bought one new scooter; (1986 Honda Helix) all of the others were used; and most were in dire need of repair at that. It might be nice to have a little gas sipper that is still able to go at least 65 mph without running it's guts out. The PCX seems capable of at least very near that. Some day maybe I'll get one. (or maybe 2 )
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Post by junkyarddog on Dec 25, 2014 0:04:58 GMT -5
I looked at the PCX150, but it's swoopy styling did not impress me. I also did not like the idea that it was not a step through. But finding out what was involved in checking the valves (virtually taking the whole scooter apart) and the short valve check interval (2500 miles) removed it from consideration. Also, you will not likely get one for anywhere near $3500. By the time the dealer piles on all the fees, it will be closer to $5000. I wound up with a SYM HD200. I got a brand new 2015 model OTD for $3400, which is actually $100 UNDER MSRP, and that included sales tax, title, and registration. There were no dealer fees. Unlike Kymco, Genuine, and SYM/Lance, all quality Taiwanese scooters, Japanese brand dealers love to pile on an absolutely absurd amount of fees, at least in my neck of the woods, er, cactus.
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