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Post by prodigit on Jul 5, 2014 1:01:52 GMT -5
Interesting bike! If I didn't have so much highway to do, I would probably have purchased this bike! I might purchase it for the local rides, and upgrade my Honda Rebel 250 to a 350-500cc thumper bike for interstate speeds. I feel the Rebel 250 can barely hold it's own at prolonged WOT rides (75-80MPH, 1+ hrs rides). It took me some modding to get the Rebel past 80MPG (comes at 66MPG stock). specs of the Sym: www.alliancepowersports.com/models/wolf.htmlThis sym would be the perfect city bike. Top speed 65MPH, which means actual usable (all day) speed is 55MPH; as those last 10MPH always feel like squeezing the juice out of the engine; and probably tops at 50MPH with a strong headwind. With some mods, probably 70-75MPH with wind in the back. I know that a 125cc was too small for comfortable city riding; possible, but not comfy. 150cc is the perfect city size.  350-400cc is the perfect highway size, for speeds of all day ~80-90MPH. |
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Post by oldchopperguy on Jul 5, 2014 1:53:13 GMT -5
Oh YEAH!
I examined one of these in the 125 size at Moxie Scooters, where I got my used Kymco Grandvista. The little SYM is absolutely irresistible... I'm told it's a sorta copy of an older Honda, but with it's vintage styling cues it just SHOUTS fifties Triumph! It looks Brit all the way!
Now, if SYM would only put TWO of those cylinder/head assemblies on ONE case for a 300cc vertical Brit-style twin... Talk about SWEET!
It's such a sharp little bike in ANY size that it's hard to turn down! Love it!
Leo in Texas
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Post by prodigit on Jul 5, 2014 2:10:34 GMT -5
The bike on itself is a perfect city bike; but it would only be able to help you out on highways in emergencies; or a few exits. Not really meant to be going on the interstate with, or do longer rides. I found that 300cc in my environment (flat Florida) would not be very useful, unless if it's a racing engine ( Ptwin ), with 10+k rev limiter (like the Ninja 300); to build up enough HP to be able to go at Interstate speeds. Though most interstate speeds here are posted 60MPH, most people don't go below 75MPH, 80MPH most of the time, and occasionally 100MPH. A 300cc engine of this caliber would barely be able to get to 85MPH tops; and in some way is just like my Honda Rebel 250. If you are looking for this bike at 300cc, you might check out the Rebel 250 or Yamaha Vstar250 ; which is about 5MPH faster than the Suzuki Tu250; and has more HP/Torque. The Rebel because it has a high rev engine (9.5k RPM Ptwin engine), and the Yamaha, because it has a 249cc V-Twin (a bit more than the 234cc Ptwin of the Rebel). If you want to do some interstate riding, at 80MPH and beyond, with some 15-20MPH headwind, you really want your bike to be able to do  +MPH tops, so you can still ride it at 80MPH even with wind, and a 400cc (35lb ft torque, 35HP is really recommended). Another note, A 250cc is somewhat the threshold of air cooling. 300cc and more should preferably be watercooled. For that reason, I would recommend a 400-500cc bike; watercooled, which should be able to get you anywhere in the USA, tops out at -100MPH, and will handle longer highway speeds (80MPH) just fine, without running out of breath. |
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Post by prodigit on Jul 5, 2014 2:17:05 GMT -5
If you like the style, but with more cc's, you might be interested in Yamaha's SR400. Coming out in 2015, the perfect highway bike if you ask me; except for the price. Lightweight, nimble, and fast enough; and probably you can get the 66MPG up by 15% to 75MPG. www.yamahamotorsports.com/sport/products/modelhome/691/home.aspx |
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Post by Paladin on Jul 5, 2014 14:46:13 GMT -5
Interesting bike! ... would be the perfect city bike. Top speed 65MPH, which means actual usable (all day) speed is 55MPH; as those last 10MPH always feel like squeezing the juice out of the engine... 350-400cc is the perfect highway size, for speeds of all day ~80-90MPH. This morning I went for a scoot to see Tank Land, 70 miles on the freeways mostly 60-65 mph. The Wolf claims 14.8 bhp vs. the 11.7 bhp of my Vespa. Vespa rates the 150 to 59 mph, I hit 65 mph per a GPS app. The SYM rates the Wolf to 65.5 mph, but the HP should hit 73 mph. You may feel the last 10 mph too much, but I know that my 150 is just happy doing 120 miles in under 2 hours. Whatever. While the 149.4 cc Wolf has more hp and speed than my 150.5cc Vespa, my Vespa is California Freeway Legal while the Wolf is not. If you want a small bike, you should check out the Suzuki S40 and the Yamaha SR400. |
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Post by spunn on Jul 5, 2014 21:05:39 GMT -5
Pretty cool
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Post by bvance554 on Jul 6, 2014 0:59:16 GMT -5
Cool looking bike. Reminds me of an old classic Honda.
Prodigit, you've never ridden a 250cc Ninja have you? Lets not dissect cc's and mph...
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+MPH tops, so you can still ride it at 80MPH even with wind, and a 400cc (35lb ft torque, 35HP is really recommended).
