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Post by katastroff on Oct 4, 2014 9:12:54 GMT -5
Sorry for being a necro.
Here is what im aiming for this winter:
Im gonna take this:
And turn it into something like this:
I believe it will fall into the "registered 50cc fully stock secret 150cc swap" categorie.
oldchopperguy I just love your art work
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Post by oldchopperguy on Oct 4, 2014 12:40:36 GMT -5
Sorry for being a necro.
Here is what im aiming for this winter:
Im gonna take this:
And turn it into something like this:
I believe it will fall into the "registered 50cc fully stock secret 150cc swap" categorie.
oldchopperguy I just love your art work
Katastrof,
Thanks for the compliments! And, welcome to the site!
In case you haven't guessed, I the banner for the site, as well as for the original old ScootDawg (been years, but seems like weeks...). I also did Doug's Rebel character graphic on the Cushman Eagle, and "Daisy" for the ScooterRebels site. The "generic" avatar with the boy and gal dogs was resurrected from one of my early scooter graphics... I've been an artist all my life, so when I got into scooters, it was a "natural" to help dress-up the sites when artwork was needed. Used to make good money at it, but these days good artists are a dime a dozen... Doggone computers... LOL!
I used to build and ride choppers "back in the day" too. That's where my handle came from. These days, old age and arthritis keep me to flat-floor, step-through scooters. Sure beats walkin' though!
If you build anything like that white stretched scoot, you'll turn a lot of heads!
Ride safe!
Leo in Texas
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Post by scooter on Oct 5, 2014 15:57:07 GMT -5
I really like my Titan MP 150, and other bikes that look somewhat like motorcycles, but the skateboard designs with flat decks might be the more efficient designs for modular building. As a matter of fact, a "fake" plastic hump would make a good storage area. If I could change some things about my bike, I'd give it more leg room, a bigger engine, easy access to the engine, externally adjustable valves, sliders for if you lay it over so it can't crush your legs, enough storage for 2 full face helmets, and electronically controlled cvt. On bikes with stationary windshields, a removable or convertible top would be great and would make bikes a better option for people who need cheap transportation.
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Post by wheelbender6 on Oct 5, 2014 19:54:08 GMT -5
I like the idea of a singular modular frame for 50-200cc displacements. Honda and Yamaha currently use that philosophy in some of their motorcycles. My gut feeling is that scooters will become more recumbent, with a lower seat and longer wheelbase like the Honda NM4 bat scoot. They can have smoother body work or even be semi naked. Handling will suffer a bit, but they will be more comfortable with the seat back and will look cooler than the conventional scoot.
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Post by scooter on Oct 5, 2014 21:29:44 GMT -5
...like the Honda NM4 bat scoot. That's a good looking bike and using the rear seat as a seat back is genius!
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Post by rockynv on Oct 6, 2014 23:26:07 GMT -5
NM4 Vultus is a 750 cc motorcycle and the seat concept I believe came from the Ruckus. DCT automatic and I don't find them as appealing in person as in the pictures. Made to appeal to the anime crowd with a potential loss of aerodynamics due to the bodywork. $10,999 is the starting price plus a $310 destination fee on top of that for $11,409 however down to 670cc for the US market.. Rated at 112 mph top speed with the 750cc engine and about the same as my 250cc with the 670cc engine. www.topspeed.com/motorcycles/motorcycle-reviews/honda/2014-honda-nm4-vultus-ar162851.htmlNow the Brammo on the other hand could turn into something. Here is an earlier Empulse model climbing a mountain road with a GSXR 750 however the newer ones are lighter and have better range: The Italians seem to like Brammo's Enertia Single Speed City bike
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Post by scooter on Oct 7, 2014 1:28:58 GMT -5
NM4 Vultus is a 750 cc motorcycle and the seat concept I believe came from the Ruckus. DCT automatic and I don't find them as appealing in person as in the pictures. Made to appeal to the anime crowd with a potential loss of aerodynamics due to the bodywork. $10,999 is the starting price plus a $310 destination fee on top of that for $11,409 however down to 670cc for the US market.. Rated at 112 mph top speed with the 750cc engine and about the same as my 250cc with the 670cc engine. Yes that is slow for such a large engine. I am sure the GSXR is much faster than that. Frontal area, the area of the bike as viewed from the front, including parts anywhere on the bike, plays the largest part in aerodynamic drag from what I can tell. Of course I expect a large frontal area on a scooter for fairings to move air around and over the rider, and side bags are a given but if they are tucked in behind the fairings they should have negligible drag assuming the air is flowing around and over the bike. The mirrors on my bike are real air hogs. It takes a lot of force to keep the wind from blowing them out of place as I saw when I was repairing one of them that had a cracked base. I could probably get another mph or three just by getting rid of them and replacing them with smaller ones, but I like the built in lights. They give me visibility up high. Personally I think 500cc's are a nice size. I don't need to go over 100 mph or accelerate like a crotch rocket. If I could design a scooter, I'd probably want to design a recumbent, covered unit, but that's dangerous. You'd be so low you'd likely get ran over by larger vehicles. Still, the design would be weather resistant, fast, low drag, comfortable, and a lot of fun I am sure. This one has the looks. It looks super fun to ride: This one is more practical for bad weather but is a little tight. I must say it does look pretty workable and it's almost shoulder high. I'd like to take it for a spin: Here's one that looks too good to be true: This one might be a good starting point for such a vehicle: Another interesting design: This guy has the right idea but the comfort level and aesthetic appeal are a little low: There are a bunch of recumbent designs, some of them very nice. The upright covered models are nice too but they have large frontal areas.
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Post by rockynv on Oct 7, 2014 4:14:01 GMT -5
The smaller Brammo Enertia Plus can be had for under $5,000 and gets the e-quivalent of over 400 mpg in the city having an 80 mile range so many would only be charging it once or twice a week.commuting to work which with a battery rated for 1,500 charging cycles would be potentially good for 750 weeks/14.4 years. This would fit in with my area and range of commuting quite well and is a consideration. No clutch on the Enertia Plus nor is there a variator, belt, engine or gear oil to deal with so maintenance is very minimal. Just charge battery, wash it once in a while, check the air pressure in the tires, oils the chain and every two years flush the standard of the industry Brembo Brakes.
And the Brammo are made in the USA too.
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Post by wheelbender6 on Oct 9, 2014 18:51:33 GMT -5
I have seen 3 wheelers with a canopy, but not a 2 wheeled scoot. That is fairly practical.
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