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Post by spandi on Feb 17, 2014 3:47:21 GMT -5
A rather critical view of the Chinese product. (however when he got to his nickname for them I nearly fell off my chair.)  BTW, no one here is too "Cheap" to do the proper maintenance. |
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Post by mopedjay on Feb 17, 2014 8:21:06 GMT -5
funny he mentions hyosung which is korean not chinese
some chinese bikes will last i have the cheapest crapiest chinese scooter ever made a qingqi qm50 from 2002 it cost less in 2002 and a puch moped cost in 1978 its now 12 years old has around 20,000 miles on it and still runs great
but hes definitely right about that for every one good running chinese bike theres a thousand of the same bike that wont even start when brand new
my friends shop used to sell sunny and peace sports brands they were horrible we had one that wouldnt start brand new 0 miles so i took it apart and found the key slot in the crank was in the wrong spot so the timing was way off another one ran for 11 miles broke down and never ran again
all the scoots made by QJ (vento andretti benelli keeway strada etc) are very well made cause QJ makes engines and parts for a lot of big companies so unlike most chinese factories that actually have quality control
im wondering if the guy in the video lumps the taiwanese scoots in with the chinese ones cause theres a huge difference between them kymco pgo tgb sym eton are all top quality bikes
i never buy anything new i only get whats in junk piles or cheap on cl cause a simple part broke and they dont know how to fix it like i have a zongshen 200cc dual sport bought it for $80 the charging system is fried so i just charge the battery when not riding it handles like a bicycle with no tires vibrates real bad its hard to shift but its as reliable as a doorknob
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Post by mopedjay on Feb 17, 2014 8:22:25 GMT -5
also sorry about my bad typing skills
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Post by JerryScript on Feb 17, 2014 23:39:14 GMT -5
If these motorcycle mechanics can afford to refuse to work on chinese bikes, they must be making enough money from doing repairs and service on non-chinese bikes. If that's the case, non-chinese bikes must not be as dependable as they claim, and they probably make more money per job on them than on chinese bikes.
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Post by junkyarddog on Feb 18, 2014 3:14:29 GMT -5
I have owned one Chinese bike. It was a 2007 American Lifan LF200GY-5. I had it drop shipped to me in a crate, and assembled and set it up myself (I am a professional auto mechanic and long time rider) I found a few minor issues with it, which I was able to take care of while putting it together. I broke it in properly, and it was running great. Right around 3500 miles, the centrifugal oil filter came unbolted from the crankshaft, it lost oil pressure, and the engine seized up. Turns out there was a lock washer missing. Someone on another forum has the same bike, and has over 24,000 miles on it with no problems.
I have a 1980 Puch Newport II with the ZA50 2 speed engine, it has over 30,000 miles on it. Nothing but the head and right sidecover have ever been off the engine, and only for maintenance.
I think Chinese bikes have gotten a lot better. Back about 10 years ago, I did some weekend work for a Chinese scooter dealer. One of my jobs was uncrating and setting up new scooters. These were mostly Tank brand scooters. I couldn't believe what I found. Literally every box I opened had a pile of broken parts laying on the bottom that had come off the scooters during shipment. Both plastic and metal? parts. Most of the plastic body panels were cracked, especially around the screw holes. There were many cracks in the engine cases and CVT covers. There were huge air pockets in the broken cast metal. I also found a lot of cracked frame welds. Parts that were supposed to be round, like wheels and pulleys often weren't. Many of the front wheels were locked solid, due to defective brakes. Bad bearings were also a problem.
I have never owned a Chinese scooter, but I did have a belt break on a Yamaha scooter after only 4,000 miles. There are a lot of Chinese scooters being ridden around where I live, and they seem to be doing ok. Of course I don't know how long they have lasted or how they were set up and maintained.
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Post by retrobrian on Feb 18, 2014 12:47:56 GMT -5
I agree... the quality seems to be improving as interest grows
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