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Post by jerseyboy on Dec 27, 2014 0:33:19 GMT -5
Its dangerous to be in a tractor trailer on the interstate as well,,if you cant do the speed limit in the right lane you dont belong there to begin with..
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Post by wheelbender6 on Dec 27, 2014 9:28:44 GMT -5
"If he did (blow the motor), it was because he abused the scoot".
I agree. A stock Zuma will take you across the continent, even if you weigh around 3 bills, like Mikey.
His Zuma was derestricted, had a big bore kit and big exhaust.
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Post by javarod on Jan 25, 2015 22:19:21 GMT -5
Mmmm, should i mention that i need use a freeway to get to the next county when i go to work, and i ride a 50? 'course there is a bike lane/shoulder, so i use that.
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Post by rockynv on Jan 27, 2015 4:33:09 GMT -5
Mmmm, should i mention that i need use a freeway to get to the next county when i go to work, and i ride a 50? 'course there is a bike lane/shoulder, so i use that. Check the legality of that as most States follow US DOT regs and only allow scooters that are DOT classified as Highway Motorcycles on the Freeways. A 50 does not fall into that classification unless it has been highly modified and puts out over 10 or 15 hp. Now if you are talking a State Road and not a limited access Freeway or Interstate that is a different type of road. |
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Post by Paladin on Jan 27, 2015 5:23:14 GMT -5
Bicycles, mopeds, motor-driven cycles, etc., are all totally legal on freeways and Interstates unless there is signage prohibiting. Definition of "motor-driven cycle", which the signage prohibiting them on freeways and Interstates, depends on the State. Some States limit 5 bhp, some limit at 150cc. I know of no State with a 10 or 15 bhp limit.
US DOT regs are merely guidelines -- which is why you can ride without a motorcycle helmet in Florida.
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Post by javarod on Jan 27, 2015 5:34:15 GMT -5
Mmmm, should i mention that i need use a freeway to get to the next county when i go to work, and i ride a 50? 'course there is a bike lane/shoulder, so i use that. Check the legality of that as most States follow US DOT regs and only allow scooters that are DOT classified as Highway Motorcycles on the Freeways. A 50 does not fall into that classification unless it has been highly modified and puts out over 10 or 15 hp. Now if you are talking a State Road and not a limited access Freeway or Interstate that is a different type of road. Its a state highway, SR 370 to be precise. Considering that there really is a bike lane complete with its own ramps on both sides of the freeway, i figure i'm not likely to get in trouble. Notable is that here the freeways have dual signage, speed limit and minimum speed limit, except on the Discovery Bridge that i cross. Bicycles, mopeds, motor-driven cycles, etc., are all totally legal on freeways and Interstates unless there is signage prohibiting. Definition of "motor-driven cycle", which the signage prohibiting them on freeways and Interstates, depends on the State. Some States limit 5 bhp, some limit at 150cc. I know of no State with a 10 or 15 bhp limit. US DOT regs are merely guidelines -- which is why you can ride without a motorcycle helmet in Florida. Here that might not be much of a defense, such signs are sporadic, and there's all sorts of irregularities on signage here, like the fact that I64 is rarely mentioned on roads leading to it, instead its signage as US 40/ US 50, so the lack of a sign could just be laziness or a mistake. |
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Post by rockynv on Jan 27, 2015 12:58:11 GMT -5
Bicycles, mopeds, motor-driven cycles, etc., are all totally legal on freeways and Interstates unless there is signage prohibiting. Definition of "motor-driven cycle", which the signage prohibiting them on freeways and Interstates, depends on the State. Some States limit 5 bhp, some limit at 150cc. I know of no State with a 10 or 15 bhp limit. US DOT regs are merely guidelines -- which is why you can ride without a motorcycle helmet in Florida. Actually most will not be able to ride without a helmet legally because there is a gotcha attached to that in that your insurance will have to cover you when riding without a helmet at the state mandated levels of coverage. Where I work the health policy will not cover you when riding without a helmet and the additional coverage on your motorcycle insurance can cost around $1,500 every 6 months. Most can't afford that so they really can't lawfully ride without a helmet. All that said most who are rebelling against helmets just ignore the law and ride without a helmet anyway. |
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Post by rockynv on Jan 27, 2015 13:02:03 GMT -5
Check the legality of that as most States follow US DOT regs and only allow scooters that are DOT classified as Highway Motorcycles on the Freeways. A 50 does not fall into that classification unless it has been highly modified and puts out over 10 or 15 hp. Now if you are talking a State Road and not a limited access Freeway or Interstate that is a different type of road. Its a state highway, SR 370 to be precise. Considering that there really is a bike lane complete with its own ramps on both sides of the freeway, i figure i'm not likely to get in trouble. Notable is that here the freeways have dual signage, speed limit and minimum speed limit, except on the Discovery Bridge that i cross. Bicycles, mopeds, motor-driven cycles, etc., are all totally legal on freeways and Interstates unless there is signage prohibiting. Definition of "motor-driven cycle", which the signage prohibiting them on freeways and Interstates, depends on the State. Some States limit 5 bhp, some limit at 150cc. I know of no State with a 10 or 15 bhp limit. US DOT regs are merely guidelines -- which is why you can ride without a motorcycle helmet in Florida. Here that might not be much of a defense, such signs are sporadic, and there's all sorts of irregularities on signage here, like the fact that I64 is rarely mentioned on roads leading to it, instead its signage as US 40/ US 50, so the lack of a sign could just be laziness or a mistake. Ok so it is not really a Federally funded Interstate or Freeway but a State Road. |
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Post by javarod on Jan 27, 2015 15:39:38 GMT -5
Its a state highway, SR 370 to be precise. Considering that there really is a bike lane complete with its own ramps on both sides of the freeway, i figure i'm not likely to get in trouble. Notable is that here the freeways have dual signage, speed limit and minimum speed limit, except on the Discovery Bridge that i cross. Ok so it is not really a Federally funded Interstate or Freeway but a State Road. No, not yet, but it is numbered per Interstate standards and built to spec IIRC. |
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Post by rockynv on Jan 29, 2015 1:07:26 GMT -5
Ok so it is not really a Federally funded Interstate or Freeway but a State Road. No, not yet, but it is numbered per Interstate standards and built to spec IIRC. Once it gets an I classification and Fed funding you may see the signage change and the bicycle lane dropped. |
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Post by javarod on Jan 29, 2015 10:00:24 GMT -5
No, not yet, but it is numbered per Interstate standards and built to spec IIRC. Once it gets an I classification and Fed funding you may see the signage change and the bicycle lane dropped. If that happens, it'll be interesting to see what they do, since getting to St Charles county from St Louis is only possible by freeway, with two exceptions, a bike crossing as part of SR364, and the SR94 crossing way up at the top of the county (it'd triple my trip, maybe more). |
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Post by Paladin on Jan 29, 2015 16:20:16 GMT -5
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 31, 2015 8:28:03 GMT -5
I doubt that any state posts a sign at every entrance to every freeway etc. Meaning the absence of a sign at my chosen on-ramp does not necessarily make it legal to drive a "lesser vehicle" on that freeway.
If I had a "lesser vehicle," I would probably call the DOT and confirm if a highway I want to drive on is restricted or not.
Of course, the presence of a bike lane pretty much frees you from the restriction. So drive on, javarod!
>'Kat
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Post by javarod on Jan 31, 2015 22:25:27 GMT -5
I doubt that any state posts a sign at every entrance to every freeway etc. Meaning the absence of a sign at my chosen on-ramp does not necessarily make it legal to drive a "lesser vehicle" on that freeway. If I had a "lesser vehicle," I would probably call the DOT and confirm if a highway I want to drive on is restricted or not. Of course, the presence of a bike lane pretty much frees you from the restriction. So drive on, javarod! >'Kat I almost think it'd be interesting to wind up in court over me using the freeway even for that short hop. Is the state required to allow me to move around the state on the vehicle i choose? River crossings are few and far between here, in fact if you look at a map of St Louis you can see how there used to be one Mississippi crossing, the Poplar Street Bridge, the entire grid radiates out from it, it existed before the interstates and until recently it carried interstates 44, 55, 64 and 70 (which just got a new bridge to the north). There are a few small bridges to get into IL from STL at least, but forget about leaving the county. |
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Post by JerryScript on Feb 5, 2015 21:47:58 GMT -5
I doubt that any state posts a sign at every entrance to every freeway etc. Meaning the absence of a sign at my chosen on-ramp does not necessarily make it legal to drive a "lesser vehicle" on that freeway. If I had a "lesser vehicle," I would probably call the DOT and confirm if a highway I want to drive on is restricted or not. Of course, the presence of a bike lane pretty much frees you from the restriction. So drive on, javarod! >'Kat I almost think it'd be interesting to wind up in court over me using the freeway even for that short hop. Is the state required to allow me to move around the state on the vehicle i choose? River crossings are few and far between here, in fact if you look at a map of St Louis you can see how there used to be one Mississippi crossing, the Poplar Street Bridge, the entire grid radiates out from it, it existed before the interstates and until recently it carried interstates 44, 55, 64 and 70 (which just got a new bridge to the north). There are a few small bridges to get into IL from STL at least, but forget about leaving the county. The state is required by federal law not to restrict your movement between states, what happens inside the state depends upon that state's constitution and laws. One thing that trumps it all is that driving is a privilege, not a right. The other thing to keep in mind is that the courts will always side with the government on issues of public safety, that is why it is illegal to ride a bicycle or walk on the side of the interstate, other than to walk to the nearest exit if your vehicle breaks down. I have had my new 150cc on the freeway twice so far, and I haven't had any trouble keeping up with traffic in the right lane. I have still not pushed her to her top speed, just over 250 miles so just at the end of break-in period. I have a ride with some friends coming up soon, one has a chinese 250 and the other has a Yamaha TMax, (550?) so they may be a challenge to keep up with. |
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