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Post by cat0020 on Jun 25, 2013 10:55:31 GMT -5
Anyone in this forum has experience with the Honda Cub clone, BMS BI-METRO XLT 110 Looks like a great economical alternative to the SYM SYMBA. I've always wanted a Honda SuperCub .
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Post by domindart on Jun 25, 2013 15:02:56 GMT -5
its cute
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Post by justin010304 on Jun 25, 2013 15:38:38 GMT -5
Motors should be a replica of a pit bike
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Post by trailheadmike on Jun 25, 2013 15:47:29 GMT -5
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Post by cat0020 on Jun 28, 2013 21:08:05 GMT -5
Symba seems over priced. I'm a cheap bastard, that's why I own Chinese scoot since 2008. My 250 CFMoto 250 has over 14k mi., still runs like a champ.
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Post by joaoeu on Jun 28, 2013 22:50:27 GMT -5
Symba at times are listed on Craigslist for $1300, even from dealers. Therefore, if you were a true cheapskate, u would wait for the deal of the century ... Did u hear about the guy who went from San Francisco area to Alaska (Artic Circle) and back? Sure he did have problems, but the likelyhood of reliability problems on China clones would be even greater... www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=592359
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Post by prodigit on Jun 29, 2013 1:04:34 GMT -5
Seems like it uses the same clutch/gearing system as on my Roketa MC-05-127. The good about it: It's manual geared, good for optimal MPG, and top speed. The bad: The gearing often is geared too low (meaning you'd have to shift too many times, in a too short time to get to 20MPH, and the engine has to rev too high in final gear to get to top speed). It's all done because they made the bike to work for 2 people, but if you're mainly riding alone, a sprocket change could do wonders. If you're over 5'8" you might have problems sitting between rider and passenger seat, see below: Solution: Rebelgears! They're the sprocket specialist. Just give the dimensions, and send a photo; or send them the sprocket, and order a smaller sprocket, but be sure you're not getting a too small one. The weak part about those gearing systems is the clutch pad, and the fact that the gearing lever needs to be lifted/pressed quite far. If you ask me, I'd prefer a fully manual geared bike. From my estimation on other bikes, and my own bike, I can say with a good sprocket change, you can get a bike that accelerates normal in traffic, like a 50cc (not much faster), ~ -110MPG, and a top speed of 50-55MPH. They could accelerate faster than a 50cc, when you're riding them like a nut, with the clutch slipping like crazy, running WOT at high revs, but under normal conditions, the gear shifting actually slows acceleration down, compared to a CVT which accelerates continuously. The good thing about this is that you can choose how to accelerate. Shift gears quicker, and MPG drops. Shift gears slower (stay longer in a gear), and acceleration will be faster than normal CVT's. The cons look like the bike does not have a lot of storage space. If I manufactured these bikes, I would have created more under seat storage space, and put the gas tank either between the legs, or more towards the front. They tried making a practical bike with that basket in the front, but IMHO it's not very practical at all. The basket is directly mounted to the handlebars, or fork, meaning that it moves left and right, as you steer (if it was mounted to the frame, at least it would largely be saved from sideway motion). This makes it very difficult to carry many goods in front (definitely no heavy goods, as it slows down steering), while zigzagging. It also looks like a very small bike (for people upto 5'8", preferably people under 5'5"). I like the 100cc size. Great for town. It can keep up with traffic, upto about 45MPH, and then should climb slowly to 50/55MPH. If the engine is anywhere near the same as on my roketa, it will mean they have a lot of low-to-mid range torque; unlike most 50cc scoots that get their highest torque from highest RPM
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Post by cat0020 on Jul 1, 2013 18:04:04 GMT -5
Well, I went ahead and ordered myself one of these, w/my Discover card reward, it cost me less than $300 Once received will give more details.
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Post by cat0020 on Jul 16, 2013 18:34:34 GMT -5
Instead of the mail order scoot, I picked up a leftover special from local scooter shop today. A 2011 model BMS 110cc Chinese SuperCub clone: Rode it for about 12 mi. and took it all apart to change oil, check valves, took off misc. items that are just dead weight like the steering lock, helmet hooks, metal rak in the step-thru, re-toorque every nut and bolt.. Still not used to the clutch-less 4-speed GP style shifting... The tires will get changed out soon, if I keep missing shifts that make the rear wheel skid like crazy. The leading link fork need some getting used to also, instead of fork dive when you come to a stop, the front end actually rises upward....
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Post by trailheadmike on Jul 16, 2013 20:00:18 GMT -5
Great looking scoot. I'm looking forward to hearing more about your experiences with it. Many safe miles to you.
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Post by joaoeu on Jul 16, 2013 23:41:51 GMT -5
Instead of the mail order scoot, I picked up a leftover special from local scooter shop today. A 2011 model BMS 110cc Chinese SuperCub clone: How much did you pay for it? Yea, they don't look like they are very popular. The Z50 Clone Monkey Bikes seem to be more popular than that ...
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Post by scootnwinn on Jul 17, 2013 2:33:28 GMT -5
I like that style. How fast is it. Have you explored the top speed at all?
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Post by prodigit on Jul 17, 2013 2:57:10 GMT -5
Usually those 'semi automatic' gearboxes aren't too hard to deal with. They cycle from 1st, to 2nd, to 3rd to 4th. And between 4th and 1st it has a neutral, which you can only enter when standing still. When you want to downshift, you can only do that when speed is very low, or when the engine is almost in idling RPM. Basically 5-10MPH and you can downshift from 4th to 3rd, and so on....
I call it tardy down shifting, as you need to wait a while before down shifting. It's not easy, but you can get used to it...
I would immediately treat the 'chrome' which more than likely is just polished steel, not real chrome! Having spokes could make that difficult.
How's it riding for the rest?
I presume top speed is around 50-55MPH?
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Post by cat0020 on Jul 17, 2013 7:43:22 GMT -5
How much did you pay for it? Yea, they don't look like they are very popular. The Z50 Clone Monkey Bikes seem to be more popular than that ... It was marked down to $799, I talked it down to $750 cash. Seems that there are not popular due to the retro look and the odd 110cc engine size. Those who have moto license they just go with 150cc scoot for bigger engine that may seem to offer more speed/torque. Those without moto license just stick with the 50cc and below. I like that style. How fast is it. Have you explored the top speed at all? I don't plan on exploring the top speed on this scoot, I've got other bikes for that. The combination of 4-speed and 17" spoked wheels makes usage of the available torque from the 110cc engine quite well. I'd bet this scoot has some great off-road manner if suspension was sorted a bit.
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