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Post by JR on Apr 15, 2013 14:48:54 GMT -5
Marshalldillion deleted his account, does anybody know why?
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Post by carasdad on Apr 15, 2013 15:22:04 GMT -5
[replyingto=admin]Doug[/replyingto]I was wondering the same. 2 Police officers so far in the past week. Maybe they felt attacked by peoples stories of maltreatment by LEO's. But just as my story about being arrested 3 times..for the same thing...over a court error. Well..facts are facts. The Vets here and we retired military also hear bad things about..and also being Chippewa along with a few other Native Americans on here...we endure the word Indian...or Injuns...which we dislike and find disrespectful. We prefer Native American..as none of us are from India...nor have we ever been there.. I cannot and am not speaking for the LEO's that left..I am only speculating. Sad to see folks go. Not everyone is going to like who you are..or what you do... We have a saying..."Yoshanokta ojiwenok bebegala ayo da sii etazonee miki to pialeka muskabon" <-- If everyone likes who you are..and what you do...you are making too many compromises in your life..
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Post by JR on Apr 15, 2013 16:17:11 GMT -5
Well the guy had a lot to contribute here and I hope he comes back after he has had a little time to think about it.
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Post by SylvreKat on Apr 15, 2013 23:01:26 GMT -5
I'm guessing it's all the bashing of police that's been going on. Seems some here think that just because they know a majority of crooked cops, means they can rag on police in general and as an entire group.
Go check out my thread in Gen Scooter for I think the most recent example.
'dad, I don't think it's the specific stories of individuals. I think it's the attitude of "most cops are bad so I'll just bad-mouth the entire profession". Those posters don't care to dwell on the good, they just keep pushing on how bad cops are. By implication meaning "all" even if they don't. 'Cause they're not bothering to specify, just attack the profession.
I've tried to defend the police, acknowledging that there are bad but there's also good and let's not bash them all. But I'm getting tired of the negativity of it myself. And I'm not a cop. I'm just a naive trusting girl thinking the best of everyone.
Funny, so far it's worked out pretty okay for me, living like that....
>'Kat
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Post by yelloscoot on Apr 15, 2013 23:42:58 GMT -5
Noticed that the other day when he was posting on a thread of mine,...there one minute....gone the next. Figured it was a forum error or something.
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Post by yelloscoot on Apr 16, 2013 0:10:06 GMT -5
Kat,...I like that thread,...up until a certain "..point".
Very impressive riding...even passed the video on to others.
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Post by JR on Apr 16, 2013 1:52:44 GMT -5
I had seen that vid before as others have mentioned.
The thread has been edited.
Let me say this, if stuff like that goes on again I hope somebody points it out to me or JR so we can jump in sooner. I work, I have other things I have to do and just can not try and read every word here, we don't need people that can not be civil.
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Post by justbuggin2 on Apr 16, 2013 2:47:26 GMT -5
when i started the tread (i almost got tazed) i was not bashing on the police or intended it to turn into bash the police i was just stating the facts of what happen due to a stupid law i disagree with i have no disrespect of any of the LEOs that have been on this forum or any forum and i have found that they have been good members here i hate they have decided to leave the forums and wish they will come back as there are things that we share in common and i like sharing info about things it means i am growing in knowledge and others are as well
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Post by carasdad on Apr 16, 2013 8:26:01 GMT -5
I'm guessing it's all the bashing of police that's been going on. Seems some here think that just because they know a majority of crooked cops, means they can rag on police in general and as an entire group. Go check out my thread in Gen Scooter for I think the most recent example. 'dad, I don't think it's the specific stories of individuals. I think it's the attitude of "most cops are bad so I'll just bad-mouth the entire profession". Those posters don't care to dwell on the good, they just keep pushing on how bad cops are. By implication meaning "all" even if they don't. 'Cause they're not bothering to specify, just attack the profession. I've tried to defend the police, acknowledging that there are bad but there's also good and let's not bash them all. But I'm getting tired of the negativity of it myself. And I'm not a cop. I'm just a naive trusting girl thinking the best of everyone. Funny, so far it's worked out pretty okay for me, living like that.... >'Kat SylvreKat I hope it was not my 3 times arrested story for a court error story...it was really horrible..and I did not implicate the police..in fact I said he stated while we were being recorded in the vehicle..that he knew it was a mistake..tried to show them...but was ordered to get me. Forced to by his Captain. I did say he is one of the 4 officers we have in town that is well respected...for respecting others...and the other 3 in town we dislike immensely. But that is not hate..it just the truth brought on by their poor social skills and lack of respect for the citizens. I also shared how an officer in another town and county I lived in....caught me doing 50mph on my lil scoot. Told me he thought the law needed to be amended as 30 mph is dangerous when folks such as his college student son rides one to classes on roads where the speed limit is 55mph. Also he said...a car can get a ticket for going 30mph in a 55 zone as they are impeding the flow of traffic. His big fear was that he has seen MANY close calls on the 3 hills that go out of town. People on scooters would be on the other side of the hill as cars crested the hill at 55-60 and BOOM! they were right on the scooter. So he used to stop scoots and tell them to when they ride out of town over the hills...PLEASE stay to the right of the white line..ride along the edge..as he has seen many near collisions when the car came over the hill..then had to swerve to avoid the moped or scooter. He issued me no ticket...in fact...he was the officer that asked me if I could hop up his sons scoot. Which I did for free he just had to pay for the parts...BBK and 5 gram KOSO sliders. In fact he even went so far as to bring up the laws regarding sooters speed limits at his morning quarters. They ALL agreed he told me... and pushed aside the state law whereas they would only stop a scooter if they were speeding in town where it was 25 and 35. So that was something positive I shared. Therefore I hope it was not me that offended him.
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Post by yelloscoot on Apr 16, 2013 8:45:25 GMT -5
Good edit Doug. There's a big difference between a really juicy story...and smut.
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Post by JR on Apr 16, 2013 9:18:25 GMT -5
I'll echo Doug and also remind all that one of the many things mentioned on the old forum was just this kind of demeanor and sometimes it getting out of hand before it could be taken care of.
While everyone has a right to their opinion it can be stated in a way that doesn't demean people and get a flame war started. It's simple enough to say you had a bad experience with someone, in this case a police officer and then go on. To say all police officers are bad just because of one rotten apple is like saying all barbers are no good because one may have messed up your haircut, same idea, same principal.
There is always that other side of the coin too and we need to remember that. Like Doug said he works and at times can't be here to watch for these things, myself I call myself retired but just this week I have a total of 4 ball games to go to with my granddaughter and grandson that I am now raising, finally getting some good weather and my grass in the yard is a foot deep in places, I kid you not and I have 5 acres to mow and weed eat. Trying to get out a garden, putting out mulch on a total of 28 fruit trees, cleaning up the strawberry patch, mulching my vineyard of 30 grapes, etc. etc.
So you can see even though I take breaks during the day and come check on the forum I have things going too.
Lastly this is just not necessary and if it gets out of hand on subjects that offend then the tolerance for it is not very high. Also as a reminder one can use the report to mod function if they fell someone is out of place or offensive and Doug or I will see what is going on and take action if any is necessary.
JR
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