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Post by seamus26 on Jun 19, 2019 9:39:40 GMT -5
Well, for me, anyway. I made a big decision recently. Looking at the stable I realized that - at least in Michigan - having four motorcycles scooters licensed and insured was a little spendy. It was time for one of them to go. Out of the bunch I ultimately chose the Vespa. There were two main reasons. One, it has the best resale value, hands down. Two, it's a forty year old motorcycle that requires constant attention. I love to tinker as much as the next guy, but I just don't have the tinkering time like I used to. It was a hard decision. That old 200cc 2T really pushed me down the road. Every time I reached my destination it was like I had completed the TT on the Isle of Man. My last ride to drop her off with the buyer was nearly an hour. It was 49º into a 20mph headwind. The whole trip I second-guessed my decision, but it wasn't a couple of days before I knew it was the right one. So, it's farewell, noble steed. It's been a good ride. On the flip side, I made some money. Quite a bit, actually, if you don't count all of the parts and time. With the profits I was able to get into something different : I picked up this new (to me) 2009 Aprillia Sportcity 50cc with under 700 miles. Yeah. It's a new old bike. I have never had a 50 before. It is everything the P200E wasn't ... quiet, smooth and oh so slow. For around town it has been great. I changed fluids and dropped from the 9g weights to 7g and picked up a little more quickness out of it, but I'm never going to win any races. Mileage - so far - is right around 80mpg, which is less than I had hoped, but it costs me $15 every three years to keep on the road. THAT I can get behind.
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Post by tortoise on Jun 19, 2019 10:03:53 GMT -5
never had a 50 before . . so slow What a DUMBASS mistake for an experienced rider! Speculating you may be researching performance enhancements to desecrate the engine into a pile of excrement, because the Michigan 30mph moped stipulation should not apply to you?
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Post by seamus26 on Jun 19, 2019 14:11:48 GMT -5
never had a 50 before . . so slow What a DUMBASS mistake for an experienced rider! Speculating you may be researching performance enhancements to desecrate the engine into a pile of excrement, because the Michigan 30mph moped stipulation should not apply to you? Don't misunderstand me. It wasn't the top end speed that surprised me, but rather the lack of acceleration. I fully anticipated that I'd be puttering around at 30, and the intent was to use this bike for suburban crawling. I would just prefer to have the ability to get out of people's way. It was interesting that there were 9g rollers in the CVT. Dropping to 7g dramatically improved pickup. It's just amazing to have a bike that makes my 150 feel "big and powerful". I love the way the bike feels and handles. I've already put a couple hundred miles on it. It was no mistake at all. The only upgrades planned for this bike are the aforementioned roller swap and perhaps a little up-jetting, but I am loth to modify this little machine. It is very well engineered and it would seem a crime to do so. Any mods for increased speed will be on one of my other three bikes that are fully licensed and insured per Michigan law. And if you are going to quote me, please include the entire quote. I wasn't complaining about the speed, simply making comparisons between the Aprilia and the 40 year old Vespa. "It is everything the P200E wasn't ... quiet, smooth and oh so slow." Everything I expected.
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Post by wheelbender6 on Jun 19, 2019 20:13:33 GMT -5
If that Aprillia is a two stroke, you can make get a surprising amount of power out of it by de-restricting it and adding a few more mods.
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Post by chewbaca on Jun 19, 2019 20:52:57 GMT -5
just because the speed limit is 30 doesn't mean you want to spend ten minutes getting to that speed😏
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Post by seamus26 on Jun 20, 2019 7:35:41 GMT -5
just because the speed limit is 30 doesn't mean you want to spend ten minutes getting to that speed😏 It is a four stroke. Part of my parting with the two stroke was a bit of environmental consciousness. To each his own, but my own conscience had me leaning in that direction. Now, ask me how many miles I will have to ride to make up for the trip we took in the truck to pick it up. Seriously, I did the math and it’s in excess of 750. Can’t win them all. And exactly. I like to be a polite rider, and part of that is getting the heck out of people’s way as quickly as possible.
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Post by wheelbender6 on Jun 22, 2019 8:25:08 GMT -5
De-restricting a four stroke will make it faster. Just not as fast as a 2t.
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Post by seamus26 on May 27, 2022 4:39:35 GMT -5
Wow, it's been a long time since I've been here. Time flies when life happens. Update on the Aprilia : That bike has been worth its weight in gold. With some CVT tuning (the previous owner had 9G rollers) and cutting the rev limiter, she cruises nicely at 40 (GPS checked) with some left. I even hold speed uphill most of the time. I've put a few thousand miles on her and she's one of the best scooter purchases I've made. Since then I have also sold the ZNEN after hitting the 10K mark. I got $900 for her and she went to a friend I know won't ride her as hard as I did, and I'm confident he got a good bike. I also picked this up for cheap from a local dealer. Somebody moved and couldn't take it with them. The dealer bought it for pennies because it wasn't running. I bought it for slightly more pennies, got it running and immediately wound up replacing the clutch. But it's been a great bike. It's a 150 4t Stella. I'm averaging a documented 88mpg with it. That's actually 10mpg better than the Aprilia is getting me. It's been a weird few years for everyone, but I think I'll check in more. I hope everyone is doing well and still scooting.
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