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Post by honda4life on Aug 10, 2018 21:26:19 GMT -5
Hello! New user to the forums but I’ve been into scooters for about 10 years. Gonna need some help because it’s been over a year diagnosing my issue. Here’s the problem: When it sits for awhile (week or so)is very hard to start!!! Cranks and cranks.....eventually starts and idles quite high. (Possibly too large an idle jet?) when I start off feels JUST LIKE there’s some dirt in the carb. Roll on throttle and it’s missing and sputtering and jerking....as I ride for about a mile or 2 it seems to get better but is still there. Once it’s warm it starts easily. (Auto choke?). Ok here we go with what I have on the scoot and what I have done to diagnose. ’07 Agility 50 6,000 km always use fresh fuel with startron always use good synthetic betray oil very meticulous with my fluids stock intake with exception of “snorkel” removed and a “free flow” filter in stock airbox stock exhaust .004 in/ex on a cold motor valve adjustment stock cdi cut to remove rev limiter (years ago and never had a problem) new carb and 90mj new pet cock and fuel lines New coil new plug new wire cleaned the carb out like.....5 times! I’m talking like surgically cleaned it. Swapped out auto choke ok... i tried the yellow cdi many were using on another forum with success but couldn’t get it to idle at all. Didn’t work! put stock cdi back on and ran the same but was missing still. bought a brand new carb and the issue was still there then I thought it was ignition related so I replaced the coil, plug, wire, stator, pickup... still there!? questions: do I have an ac or dc cdi? The ‘07 was very contradictory. Some said ac some said dc The smaller cdi’s are supposed to be ac? Well mine is the larger kind. I bought the larger orange race cdi and it didn’t work at all. Got a replacement from scrappy dogs (which have been amazing as usual) and the second didn’t work. Bought the larger yellow one and it was very hard to start but wouldn’t stay running!!!? went back to stock cdi and started ok and ran ok. Went out for a ride and the damn missing was still there. ok... bought a brand new carb and installed it. still missing! put it in the shed
that was last year. I’ve brought it back out because I’m not giving up. Fresh gas with startron new plug belray oil amsoil synthetic gear oil still missing man😡 im thinking auto choke? too rich a main jet? too rich a pilot jet? I would appreciate any help guys!
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Post by tortoise on Aug 10, 2018 21:55:26 GMT -5
No mention of testing cylinder compression?
Were any of the replacement stator coils "wrapped" . . for an AC-CDI ignition system?
Verify crankshaft-flywheel woodruff key has not sheared, which throws off timing. Insert a probe into spark plug hole, rotate piston to top-dead-center, observe if flywheel "T" mark is aligned with case indicator.
Might also try disconnecting the CDI key-switch pin, to rule out an intermittent grounding short in that circuit. Stop engine by disconnecting the trigger pickup coil connector.
Any chance the exhaust could be obstructed with carbon, rust, nesting insects?
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Post by cyborg55 on Aug 11, 2018 7:39:00 GMT -5
I think tortuga is on to something with the ground / electrical problem,,,could be a bad ground or wire or even a connector plug that was either put together incorrectly and not seated all the way or one of the pins got pushed out of its seat in the plastic ,,,this situation showed up more than once,,,pull the plastic get it up and running on the center stand and move wires around with your hand,,I think you'll discover the problem
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