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Post by oldchopperguy on Dec 2, 2017 20:50:36 GMT -5
THIS is the season of "peace on earth" but sometimes I see an image SO powerful and universal that I just can't resist making a graphic to ponder over... The lady in the picture below is a citizen of one of the Arab cities recently decimated by ISIS. Christians, Jews and moderate Muslims were tortured and murdered by the hundreds.
I can almost feel the resolve in her eyes, and the heat off the barrel of her now-silent AK47. Anybody care to try talking to her about gun-control? I thought not...
I couldn't help noticing the plastic mag on that AK... An indication of one of the rare ones chambered in .223/5.56. So she's getting her ammo from the "good guys"... I have one of them myself, and have fired it non-stop until the barrel glowed red and the wood handguard caught fire. And it never misses a beat. Good choice when it's time to quit talking and start shooting...
This news photo shows us this stalwart, very aged lady SIRVIVOR in front of her battle-scarred house... SHE didn't give up. Neither should any good man, woman or child.
Bless my soul, SHE reminds me of my own sweet Wife... 
In times past, she might have been seen in front of her log cabin, wearing a beaver hat and holding a Winchester '73... She reminds me so much of the pioneer American spirit that once made our country great... Doesn't matter if you wear a turban, a baseball cap or a military helmet. It doesn't matter what part of the world you reside in. It doesn't matter if you're standing in your place of worship, the workplace, the polling place or the battle field... Stand your ground, and...NEVER GIVE UP!
 Something to think over from The Old Chopper Guy and the missus...
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Post by terrilee on Dec 3, 2017 10:09:51 GMT -5
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Post by cyborg55 on Dec 4, 2017 23:04:05 GMT -5
Wow I didn’t realize you could shoot a gun till it glowed and there was no cook off,,,,
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Post by pistonguy on Dec 5, 2017 5:41:09 GMT -5
She cooked off long before she lit the hand guards on fire.
Correct me if Im wrong but you were a Pogue during the War right?
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Post by pistonguy on Dec 5, 2017 6:08:50 GMT -5
I dint think you could light up some Handguards with a AK or AR in Civilian Semi-Auto form
Not even Miculek can pull that off.
Look how many rounds it took in full auto form to do so
If you can do so with what you say you have I really wanna see that video. heck I bet we can get a collection going to pay for the ammo.
Why would you want to even do that to your own rifle?
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Post by oldchopperguy on Dec 6, 2017 22:24:29 GMT -5
Sorry, no video... That was many years before I had any kind of video camera.
We had a shooting get together at a ranch belonging to an associate of my stepson, a Lockheed exec. He had a thousand-yard range and there were a lot of us there with whatever toys we had. We placed 100 water-filled milk jugs at the hundred-yard mark... The little AK underfolder in .223 Rem. was such a hit that it got passed around among a dozen guys. The property owner had a pretty much "unlimited" (many THOUSANDS of rounds) supply of .223, 7.62x39 and .308 ammo free to all to use.
My AK got shot semi-auto as fast as mags could be loaded and passed around, and somewhere around 1,000 rounds it got passed back to me, wood smoking, barrel glowing dull red, from the forward chamber area, to about 2-inches down the bore. I set it down to cool and the top wood started to flame up. Believe me, you CAN light up the wood firing semi-auto at around 300 rpm...
"Why do this to my rifle?" Didn't do it intentionally... Guys just kept shooting... When you're having fun, on somebody else's nickel, who wants to stop? LOL! Please note in the AK meltdown video, even after the stock was BLAZING it never did cook-off rounds. The action finally seized. I'll bet even after THAT torture the AK will still operate fine once cooled off.
I tossed a range towel on it, smothering the fire and let it finish cooling.
No cook-offs. Only cook-off I ever experienced was in the Army firing a select-fire M14 in 7.62 Nato (.308 Win.). We were on range maintenance detail and had to expend all ammo left from training sessions. It was not brought back to the armory for re-use. That cook-off happened after around 700 rounds full-auto, so we took a break to let it cool.
The most upsetting "happening" back then was with early M16 rifles and bad ammo. The 16 was just being first issued and trouble-prone... Not uncommon for a trigger pull with no report... Not a dud, not a squib, but round FIRED and bullet stuck in the barrel. All pressure (55K psi) remaining sealed inside barrel and chamber. When the bolt was pulled open, EVERYTHING exited out the ejection port; fragmented brass, and high-velocity gases... Very, VERY dangerous.
I still have that .223 AK, and it still functions 100%. It's my last resort "go to" gun. AK enthusiasts tell me no cook-off because of the generous tolerances, air-flow, etc. I'm no AK expert, so I'll take their word for it. Nothing short of the 1911 .45 is as reliable as the AK.
And yes, ON the record, I served my entire hitch in Psywar in GERMANY coordinating combat operations. OFF the record, neither you, nor anyone else except my men will ever know.
So... You can shove the "pogue" insult along with the "squid"... I've been MORE than tolerant with you. Give it a rest. Mission Support Systems was headquartered in Karlsruhe, at Gerzewski Kacern. There were no facilities in-country yet (1967-1970). We had to work out of Germany since the early computer systems were there. You serve where you're sent. We also coordinated operations from there that can't be talked about even now. That's why I needed a COSMIC clearance. I have NO problem with armed combat, in OR out of the military. Have a Merry Christmas (and I mean that). I'm focusing on spending my time with friends and family who KNOW me, and therefore RESPECT me.
I won't be handing out insults and disrespect for Christmas, only prayers and best wishes...
Leo (signing off) in Texas
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Post by spandi on Dec 9, 2017 2:48:38 GMT -5
THIS is the season of "peace on earth" but sometimes I see an image SO powerful and universal that I just can't resist making a graphic to ponder over... The lady in the picture below is a citizen of one of the Arab cities recently decimated by ISIS. Christians, Jews and moderate Muslims were tortured and murdered by the hundreds.
I can almost feel the resolve in her eyes, and the heat off the barrel of her now-silent AK47. Anybody care to try talking to her about gun-control? I thought not...
I couldn't help noticing the plastic mag on that AK... An indication of one of the rare ones chambered in .223/5.56. So she's getting her ammo from the "good guys"... I have one of them myself, and have fired it non-stop until the barrel glowed red and the wood handguard caught fire. And it never misses a beat. Good choice when it's time to quit talking and start shooting...
This news photo shows us this stalwart, very aged lady SIRVIVOR in front of her battle-scarred house... SHE didn't give up. Neither should any good man, woman or child.
Bless my soul, SHE reminds me of my own sweet Wife...
In times past, she might have been seen in front of her log cabin, wearing a beaver hat and holding a Winchester '73... She reminds me so much of the pioneer American spirit that once made our country great... Doesn't matter if you wear a turban, a baseball cap or a military helmet. It doesn't matter what part of the world you reside in. It doesn't matter if you're standing in your place of worship, the workplace, the polling place or the battle field... Stand your ground, and...NEVER GIVE UP!
Something to think over from The Old Chopper Guy and the missus... Leo, if you want to see "Bulldog Tenacity" might I suggest treating yourself (and the better half) to a showing of Darkest Hour, the new movie of Winston Churchill's outstanding leadership during the Battle of Britain. |
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Post by oldchopperguy on Dec 9, 2017 23:43:34 GMT -5
Spandi,
Good idea! The resolve exhibited by Churchill and all the allied leaders during WWII is monumental. One of my FAVORITE tales of the Battle of Britain concerned Hermann Goering... As commander of the Luftwaffe during that brutal campaign, Hitler visited the scene on Germany's side and bluntly demanded of Goering "What do you NEED to win this battle?" Goering replied: "Give me a squadron of Spitfires!".He must have been on VERY good terms with der Fuhrer to have kept from being immediately executed...  I'm sure Sir Winston had his day made when he learned of that conversation! 
Ride safe, and watch out for the Hun in the Sun!Leo
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Post by cyborg55 on Dec 11, 2017 0:23:55 GMT -5
That pic is as old as Moses,, taken late 80's early nineties,,, she's Armenian,,, reportedly 103-106 years old at the time,,, they probably gave her $20 American to pose with the akm,,, not an ak47,,,, she probably did see her share of atrocities knowing the region,,, the photog used black and white or photoshopped the color out of it,,, it's a staged setup hokum schmokum,,,,, and as a side note the extreme bend on the 30 round magazine indicates 7.62x39,,,the 5.56 mag has much less of a curve ,,,because the Soviet round has a much larger case head it just needs more room,,,
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Post by oldchopperguy on Feb 5, 2018 15:15:23 GMT -5
That pic is as old as Moses,, taken late 80's early nineties,,, she's Armenian,,, reportedly 103-106 years old at the time,,, they probably gave her $20 American to pose with the akm,,, not an ak47,,,, she probably did see her share of atrocities knowing the region,,, the photog used black and white or photoshopped the color out of it,,, it's a staged setup hokum schmokum,,,,, and as a side note the extreme bend on the 30 round magazine indicates 7.62x39,,,the 5.56 mag has much less of a curve ,,,because the Soviet round has a much larger case head it just needs more room,,,
The pic does tell a great story, faked or not. That lady has seen plenty of garbage we hope we won't, unless deployed in the military...
You're right about the AKM... I always have lumped the AK family into "milled-receiver AK47" or "stamped-receiver AK47"... Of course there are numerous other "kin" like the 56, AK74 and other lookalikes... The plastic mag fooled me. Had to check my own mags for .223 and 7.62. Too many years since using either of mine.
Have a bone for being observant.
Keep your powder dry...
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