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Post by aus on May 9, 2017 9:41:27 GMT -5
Hi I'm a new rider considering buying a scooter off Craigslist. It's listed at $850 w 19 miles. It's also a 2015. It seems this is also known as Motobravo Roma Super Hornet. I don't fully understand that - different factories for clones? can anyone clarify that for me? Does that seem like a decent price? Anything I should know about this model, or scooters generally? I'd be using this for daily commuting, probably 300 miles a week, planning to avoid the highways, at least at first. I read something about needing to check some of the fasteners for tightness and apply thread lock..... not sure I can trust the seller's word that it was done properly. Any tips on how to make sure that everything is properly done, short of breaking it apart and re assembling it? Any tips before I make a 3h drive to bring this baby home, with a minimal checkup? Any modifications you'd recommend?
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Post by bob123456789 on May 9, 2017 14:24:15 GMT -5
aus. One thing you may need to consider that isn't obvious. Check your states requirement for driving this. Most states >49 cc requires a motorcycle license. Unless you already have it it may be an additional cost.
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Post by wheelbender6 on May 9, 2017 18:44:39 GMT -5
My 2 cents. A stock 150cc scooter does about 50 mph or so. Good for surface streets and urban highways. If you plan to commute on highways with a speed limit higher than 50 mph, it can get uncomfortable on a 150. Hopping up your scoot will provide better acceleration, but adding top speed is much more difficult. -China scoots are reliable, but will require some maintenance and troubleshooting to remain that way. There is plenty of help on this site. -Not trying to discourage you. Scooters are a lot of fun, I just want you to get something that that will meet your needs.
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Post by SylvreKat on May 9, 2017 23:02:50 GMT -5
And 2¢ more--please seriously consider safety gear, too. At the very very least a helmet. And gloves--your fingers are important (says the gal currently dealing with a somewhat-buggered thumb). And if you're truly new, as in NEW-new, then take the MSF's beginner class. It will cram a ton of learning about driving two-wheels into your brain, make you a safer driver, should give you a free pass to your motorcycle endorsement, and probably net you a discount on your insurance. Oh yeah, to the board! >'Kat
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Post by oldchopperguy on May 10, 2017 12:44:32 GMT -5
Aus,
Welcome to the site!
All the above posts are good advice. There are SO many Chinese scoots out there. I'm wracking my old brain to remember where I've seen the Hornet... If I recall, it is one that resembles a small sport-bike (crotch-rocket...) which is pretty neat.
I'm an old-school biker from the 1960's, who's gone to scooters in my old age due to arthritis. I rode a Chinese 150 for 8 years and liked it a lot. However, it did exhibit all the typical early Chinese scooter bugs. I worked them out and then it was great transportation. Do be ready to do at least SOME wrenching, although it's new enough that it shouldn't need nearly as much tweaking as my old 2006 Xingyue did... LOL!
If you can make do with a 45-50-mph top cruising speed, a 150 will do fine. If you need to go 55+ to safely run with traffic, you will need something bigger. In my case, local surface streets got redone, with 45-50 speed limits where traffic regularly runs 60+.
That prompted me to trade in the old 150 on a used Kymco 250 which will run 65 all day long, and top out around 80, but absolute top speed is not "cruising" speed. I got my 150 running it's absolute best, which meant a top-speed of 62-mph on the flat, with no headwind. Still, 45-50 was the best "cruising" speed I could count on with hills and wind. A 10 cubic-inch engine can only do just so much...
That said, the price sounds good. I would definitely want to know why a basically new scoot with no miles on it is for sale... There MIGHT be a problem of some sort; mechanical issue, title/licensing issue, etc. Just do your homework and be sure you don't spend your money on something that looks like a bargain, but may not be.
Hopefully, the original owner simply bought it and lost interest, or something similar. It happens!
A GY6 150 is a great way to get started on 2-wheels! I rode Harleys and other big bikes for 55 years, and I still have a soft-spot in my heart for the little Chinese scoots. They provide a lot of transportation for the money.
Plenty of members here to give you advice if needed.
Best wishes on whatever ride you end up with!
Ride SAFE!
Leo in Texas
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Post by aus on Jun 9, 2017 10:17:23 GMT -5
OK. So thanks everybody for the input.
I bought her for $700. The story is: the seller is a diabetic, he bought her new two years ago but was having a problem with his foot. Well that problem ended with getting his foot amputated. He needed cash, tried selling her to his neighbor/best friend, who used to ride a lot. The neighbor found his reflexes aren't what they used to be, but posted it on Craigslist. So I was the 2nd to respond to the ad. When the first responder didn't work out, he called me back to say that if I could come up with $700 that day, she was mine. Came with a cover, two helmets, and a few other goodies. Waited out a rainstorm at a nearby shop and bought a decent jacket on sale (need a good leather jacket that can protect me a bit in case I ever need it, but for now it will do. Drove it back on the highway. As y'all have said - barely gets over 55, only a downslope.
Not sure if I've screwed anything up by running it like that for miles 20-98 on the odometer? probably not the ideal break in period, but, it was the only option I had.
I've got 422 miles on the odometer at the moment. Run around town and absolutely loving it. In addition to helmet and jacket, I always wear a neon reflective vest and usually wear thin gloves, boots, and long pants.
Been really cautious and slowly gaining confidence with my riding skills, but, I do have a good sense of balance and situational awareness, so, only one close call - refrained from cussing out a kid learning to drive who kind of ran me off the road, except I saw it coming early enough that no harm came of it.
I hear ya (and believe me, I hear it from my girlfriend) about proper licensing. I'll get a tag, and the safety class, and the endorsement for my license, in the near future. Meanwhile, honestly, not awfully worried about the 400 miles I've already run, since about a dozen coworkers have told me that in practice, local law enforcement doesn't care as long as you're behaving yourself.
I do have some problems - I have found googled references to identical issues from this model. It stalled out yesterday, couldn't get it started again. Currently have it at my friend's house and working on it. It's running too rich I think - but maybe too lean? And when I crank it, fuel dribbles out of something that seems like some kind of a pressure release port. Occasionally it'll start perfectly, then die after a few seconds.
So, I'm working on that.... will start a new thread for it in a minute.
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Post by aus on Jun 9, 2017 10:21:54 GMT -5
Oh and I am absolutely having a blast. Thinking I'll always get on 2 wheels instead of 4 whenever I can... probably looking to trade up to 250cc next summer or if I see a great deal. For now this seems perfect to learn on.
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Post by oldchopperguy on Jun 9, 2017 19:04:21 GMT -5
Oh and I am absolutely having a blast. Thinking I'll always get on 2 wheels instead of 4 whenever I can... probably looking to trade up to 250cc next summer or if I see a great deal. For now this seems perfect to learn on. aus, Even though I rode big bikes for fifty years, when I got into scooters I was as new to them as anyone. I did the same as you, starting with a Chinese 150 and moving to a 250 after six years, when the 150 just wouldn't cut it anymore. You'll probably do much as I did, learning WAY more than you wanted to by fixing the "Chinese bugs" that make scoots act like yours is acting... My first 150 required a new CDI, coil, starter, fuel lines and carb the first year. The fuel lines often are not compatible with American fuel and mine "decomposed" from the inside out, ruining the carb with rotten rubber residue. Once I got the bugs out, I experimented with the carb jetting and "needle" setting and got the engine running great. Then, I experimented with the rollers in the variator, which made MONUMENTAL improvement in drivability. Today, I'd opt for sliders instead of rollers as they seem to provide FULL opening and closing of the variator. This gives better acceleration AND top-speed. Once you have the engine running right, and dependable, roller-weights can make a real difference. I am heavy (230 pounds) and I first tried 11 gram rollers which gave me great acceleration, but a top-speed of only 43-mph at a screaming 10K rpm. I then went up a gram to 12 gram rollers which gave me an excellent top-speed of 65-mph, but NO acceleration or hill-climbing power. Hmmm.... So I ended up with a mix of 3 ea. 11 gram, and 3 3ea. 12 gram rollers, staggered, which was a near-perfect setup... Good acceleration and hill-climbing, AND a top-speed of 62. Chinese 150's are a great starter-bike and very useful for most all transportation up to 50+ mph. When local surface streets got upgraded, the speed limits were upped and for safety I really needed to be able to top 65-mph so I traded the 150 on a used Kymco 250 which has been a marvelous all-purpose scooter for my needs. Twist n' go scooters are a whole different world from motorcycles but are a lot of fun, and highly practical for real daily use, AND just fun riding. Remain careful, be vigilant and always "expect the unexpected" and you'll have many years of fun riding! Ride safe, Leo in Texas
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Post by SylvreKat on Jun 10, 2017 23:15:09 GMT -5
Big CONGRATS on the "new" scoot!
And good for you, planning to take the class and get legal and all. Just make sure you behave yourself right now. And watch out for those idiot-drivers (not just kids learning to drive)--don't want to be in an accident, if only 'cause of your DL.
Best of all, keep having fun!
>'Kat
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