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Post by tvnacman on Jan 1, 2016 20:01:21 GMT -5
Sorry please explain a little more my electrical skills are not the best... hopefully this will help i checked with multimeter key off red - black 9 red - green 9 red - stripe 9 key on red - black 0 red - green 1.7 red - stripe 1.7 ok only two pairs of wires here (black and red) is one pair and (green and black/white) the other pair. Retest key on and off for both. John |
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Post by username on Jan 2, 2016 4:21:03 GMT -5
Ok so with ignition connected up to harness with key off I get 9.4v a cross red and black and nothing across green and stripe
With key on 0 on red and black and 0.03 on green to stripe.
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Post by username on Jan 2, 2016 5:27:04 GMT -5
just took the plug off the regulator and noticed a small ammount of black marking on the pin for the red wire, it came off but did look like electrical burn. could this cause the issue i am seeing? i thought the regulator was only in use with the engine running.
i have just tried swapping to another known working cdi for my bike that didnt change anything, im going down the route of disconnecting individual items and trying incase its a bad part somewhere sending all power to ground (atleast im guessing thats whats happening since the clock goes off), tried with no cdi connected no regulator connected, no lights at all connected and tried with each one individually not connected, none of this resolved the issue and it still loses power when the key is switched to the on position.
any thoughts on what this could be? where do i need to start probing next with my multimeter?
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Post by tvnacman on Jan 2, 2016 8:47:43 GMT -5
if the regulator is causing the back feed and it can, when you unplug it everything should go back to normal.
On the ignition switch if your going to read voltage read from the red to ground (key off) then black to ground. When reading from black to ground (key off should be no power). When you turn the key on you should have power (black wire).
Your calling a wire "stripe" what colors are the stripes? And what color doe it connect to on the other side of the plug.
John
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Post by username on Jan 2, 2016 9:43:01 GMT -5
if the regulator is causing the back feed and it can, when you unplug it everything should go back to normal. On the ignition switch if your going to read voltage read from the red to ground (key off) then black to ground. When reading from black to ground (key off should be no power). When you turn the key on you should have power (black wire). Your calling a wire "stripe" what colors are the stripes? And what color doe it connect to on the other side of the plug. John tried with regulator unplugged, still the same just to confirm when you say ground do you mean put my multimeter black probe on the frame to ground it or use the green wire as i think that one is the ground one. stripe, it is a brown wire with a white stripe on it, i dont know what colour the old ignition wires where as they where ripped out but on the new ignition it is black with a white stripe. heres how its connected. Harness side has a red wire black wire green wire and brown with a white stripe. new ignition came with red black green and black with white stripe. i have connected them so they are matching i.e red to red, green to green, black to black, stripe to stripe |
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Post by tvnacman on Jan 2, 2016 10:00:20 GMT -5
Your scattered all over the place, lets stop jumping around all over the place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets start at the plug the new ignition switch came with. (turn the meter to 6 o'clock then one more click towards 5. When in this setting it should beep when you put the two leads together. (I NEED TO KNOW YOU GOT THIS).
With the key in the off position you should get a beep between green and brown/white (I NEED TO KNOW YOU GOT THIS).
NEXT
keep the probes where they are turn the key to on (the key on) the beeping should stop (I NEED TO KNOW YOU GOT THIS).
NEXT
Move probes to red and black No beep with the key off and beep with the key on (I NEED TO KNOW YOU GOT THIS).
waiting for the answers to above.
John
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Post by username on Jan 2, 2016 13:37:53 GMT -5
Multimeter doesn't beep how do I post a picture so you can make sure I haven't got it wrong?
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Post by username on Jan 2, 2016 13:42:47 GMT -5
It's fine figured how to do it with the resistance setting testing now
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Post by username on Jan 2, 2016 13:45:44 GMT -5
Tested and all correct just as you said
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Post by tvnacman on Jan 2, 2016 14:14:50 GMT -5
ok, so the switch is good and your getting power to th switch.
Now DC volts read what the battery voltage is, plug in the ignition and get a voltage reading from the red wire first with the ignition off then on. Leave the key on and read the voltage on the black wire at the switch. Check the horn , blinkers brake lights.
Keep black probe on the negative battery.
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Post by username on Jan 2, 2016 14:50:52 GMT -5
Battery voltage 12.42v
Red wire ignition off 9.7v
Red wire ignition on 3.6v
Black wire ignition off 0v
Black wire ignition on 3.7v
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Post by username on Jan 2, 2016 14:57:58 GMT -5
Ok that's a little weird. One of the issues I had was they ripped the terminals off the wire for the horn but the wires were just seperated in the air. I have just put new spades on them and now when I turn the key on and off the clock stays on.
The horn only gets 3.8v a cross it
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Post by username on Jan 2, 2016 14:58:50 GMT -5
Nevermind it's started doing it again now...
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Post by tvnacman on Jan 2, 2016 15:17:49 GMT -5
Ok, read the voltage across the fuse (black on one side red on the other. Tell me what you get.
John
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Post by username on Jan 2, 2016 15:18:08 GMT -5
To add onto before no the indicators, horn etc don't work
Ok just noticed that when the ignition is turned on the clock doesn't actually go off just very dim. However and hopefully this will help if I pull the break and press the electric start button then it goes off completely my theory is something is constantly pulling current when the key is on causing there to be little available power I.e. The clock is very dim the horn only gets 3v instead of 12 indicators don't work etc not sure what though.
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