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Post by kg7sbi on Jan 27, 2017 19:32:56 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure when I got my scoot, the rear tire was off the ground when I put it on the frame stand. Now both tires touch the ground and I can't see anything missing or broken.... I don't have a reference pic from before, but can anyone notice anything out of the norm here?   As you can tell, I've resorted to putting a 2x4 under the stand to raise it. It does the job but the back tire sits on the ground unless you push down on the front. Thanks for any help! |
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Post by 2tall2scoot on Jan 27, 2017 22:51:26 GMT -5
Looks to me its hyper-extended.
Mine is way more vertical.
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Post by kg7sbi on Jan 27, 2017 22:57:07 GMT -5
That's what I'm seeing, but it doesn't make sense. The stops are still in place, the spring works well, and nothing looks bent to me. It almost looks like this was the design, but we know better! I even found a youtube video of the same scoot and the center stand looked nearly vertical.
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Post by onewheeldrive on Jan 27, 2017 23:22:53 GMT -5
Check the bushings for the motor mount area, and there probably is another piece that is in the middle of the engine and the frame that has bushings. If those are worn, your back tire will hang low.
Take it off the main stand and lift the back of the scooter up while looking in the motor mount area for movement.
Edit: Although your stand or the area around it seems where I would think the problem would be.
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Post by 2tall2scoot on Jan 27, 2017 23:23:49 GMT -5
One of the stops must have bent enough to let it slide by. Maybe tighten everything up and examine and defects in what would make the stand go that far forward. Probably an easy fix. I am TOTALLY new to the scoot scene but I am guessing you might sit in it a lot when the center stand is down? That would make me think thats how it ended up so far extended.
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Post by kg7sbi on Jan 28, 2017 12:52:21 GMT -5
I took all of the body pieces off yesterday so I could wrap the wires and degrease the frame. That should make it easier to inspect today. Yes, I've been sitting on it SOME while it was on the stand. I didn't know that was a no-no. I only weigh 135lbs, but won't do it again!
Someone else mentioned the mount bushings, but I haven't had the time/attention to really look into it. I most likely will today.
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Post by kg7sbi on Jan 28, 2017 14:02:25 GMT -5
Just as an FYI, I found pics of the day after I bought it, and the stand looks the same. It is bent forward quite a bit.
Edit: I finally got to look close, and the stand portion itself is just barely bent enough to slip over the stop. The metal there is VERY soft (I bent it back in place with pliers, it held for a min, then failed) So I'm not interested in trying to replace it, I'll see what I can do about straightening it and adding a welded gusset or something. Here's a bone for 2tall!!!
Everything else as far as bushings and fasteners passed with flying colors. The bushings looked great and are tight, the fasteners were tight... it's just DIRTY under there. I'll be taking each fastener out and adding loctite when I do the frame cleanup.
To all new scoot owners: DO NOT SIT ON YOUR SCOOT WHILE IT IS ON THE FRAME STAND!!!
I would imagine that using the kick starter would be bad for the stand too... but I'm not trying that on the ground!
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Post by cyborg55 on Jan 29, 2017 9:38:58 GMT -5
There's a real easy fix for this drill the tabs on both sides and put 2 bolts thru with a nut on the backside,,,,and there's no reason you shouldn't be able to sit on your scoot while it's on the stand,,,I've sat on mine at least a hundred times,,,just make sure you use grade 8 or better so they aren't soft junk bolts
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Post by kg7sbi on Jan 29, 2017 10:56:35 GMT -5
There's a real easy fix for this drill the tabs on both sides and put 2 bolts thru with a nut on the backside,,,,and there's no reason you shouldn't be able to sit on your scoot while it's on the stand,,,I've sat on mine at least a hundred times,,,just make sure you use grade 8 or better so they aren't soft junk bolts Do you mean to put the bolts through the stand or the frame? I was kicking the idea around of putting bolts through the frame stops... but I'm not sure if prolonged use would tear the metal in the stand or not. I don't think it would hold if I put bolts through the stand itself. That metal is really weak. I have almost no usable upper body/hand strength, and I bent it with simple pliers. |
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Post by cyborg55 on Jan 29, 2017 11:39:46 GMT -5
I meant the frame tabs,,, maybe the addition of large diameter fender washers to sandwich them,, so fatigue will be less of an issue
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Post by kg7sbi on Jan 30, 2017 14:31:50 GMT -5
First off, thanks for the advice on this repair. Here is What I came up with. I drilled through the stop in the frame and put a bolt with a couple of washers through it, and a nut on the underside of the frame. I'll replace this stuff with grade 8 and mirror it on the other side when I can get to town. This actually creates a little guide/safety for the stand and holds very well! I think I'll do something similar on all of the 2 wheel toys my wife and I get.   Sorry the pics are garbage... I only have my phone and my shaky hands  |
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