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Post by leidenfrost on Apr 4, 2013 5:23:43 GMT -5
Was troubleshooting a headlight and dash light issue
and swapped a voltage regulator from a motorcycle
to try and correct the problem.
The small red fuse that seems to be connected to
the CDI box appears fine, even swapped out with a
new one to be sure (fuse), and the two fuses connected
to the battery were bypassed directly.
Battery is fully charged, brand new, recharged after
incident, and only two days old from the store.
Now there is absolutely no power whatsoever
when the keys are turned in the ignition, wont start,
no horn, no back brake lights, tag lights, blinkers.
There was no pop, no smell, no flash, nothing.
Tested the ignition myself to make sure that the ignition
can still carry a current, it does.
Where should I even begin to look?
BTW I have no kick-start as the scooter was bought used
and is slightly worn, when running was able to hit 55, so it
is mechanically sound, just now electrically messed up.
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Post by terrilee on Apr 4, 2013 5:55:35 GMT -5
HI & WELCOME
i am NOT a mech
sounds like a ground wire is loose
or maybe the fuse on the power cable right off the battery.
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Post by gatekeeper on Apr 4, 2013 14:39:03 GMT -5
Get the right regulator/rectifier for it and do what Terrilee says, check your grounds.
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Post by scooterelements on Apr 4, 2013 15:12:16 GMT -5
I have that exact same scooter same model same year. Check your grounds make sure the grounds are good and clean! as for the regulator you dont need that item to start or run the scooter. YES IT IS A REQUIRED ITEM and dont run without it but i have started and ran my scooter without the regulator before because mine burnt out and i did not have a replacement in stock. make sure the starter is good. Hit it a few times while trying to start the scooter and see if that helps any. One question on the battery. Did it come already sealed with acid in it or did you have to add it yourself??? If you had to add the acid yourself remember after you add it you are suppose to leave the battery open for min of 20-30 minutes and then seal it. I have a bunch of customers that make that mistake when they go to walmart or autozone to buy a battery and the battery only last them a day.
Also for the regulator you have to use the exact same one with the same color plug. They come in different colors and each one is for a different stator and wire harness setup. put the wrong one in and you will have lots of electrical issues
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Post by leidenfrost on Apr 4, 2013 22:51:49 GMT -5
Thanks Terrilee you got me to work today without having to walk.
I was looking inside the battery case for the fuses when I should have been looking under the seat, the plastic sheath where the wires connect off the lines looked like someone bypassed a fuse on the battery, when under the seat had a little black box completely out of sight unless i start blindly pulling wires out.
Hot-wired a direct line from the battery to the headlamp with a kill switch, going to be doing same for back tail lights until this
regulator mess is cleared up.
Have 45 dollars to my name and 7 more days until the next paycheck, took out regulator and tested for open circuits, open
on all four pins.
Checked all pins and unplugged and replugged, still same no lights except blinker mess.
Sealed the battery myself, 30 minute wait before seal then charged, charged until completion with automatic charger.
Thanks to all for your patience, is it possible to bypass the plugs on it maybe use a capacitor soldered in place across pins until a regulator can be bought?
Just brainstorming before bed, have a good night everyone.
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Post by scooterelements on Apr 5, 2013 9:40:34 GMT -5
Thanks Terrilee you got me to work today without having to walk. I was looking inside the battery case for the fuses when I should have been looking under the seat, the plastic sheath where the wires connect off the lines looked like someone bypassed a fuse on the battery, when under the seat had a little black box completely out of sight unless i start blindly pulling wires out. Hot-wired a direct line from the battery to the headlamp with a kill switch, going to be doing same for back tail lights until this regulator mess is cleared up. Have 45 dollars to my name and 7 more days until the next paycheck, took out regulator and tested for open circuits, open on all four pins. Checked all pins and unplugged and replugged, still same no lights except blinker mess. Sealed the battery myself, 30 minute wait before seal then charged, charged until completion with automatic charger. Thanks to all for your patience, is it possible to bypass the plugs on it maybe use a capacitor soldered in place across pins until a regulator can be bought? Just brainstorming before bed, have a good night everyone. can you take a pic of your regulator and post it? I will ask one of my friends who has a bunch of parts in his house to see if he has an extra one. |
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Post by leidenfrost on Apr 6, 2013 9:54:08 GMT -5
Sure thing have the panels on though and work
in 15 minutes, Ill pull it out tonight after work.
Took a look on the scootdog website was weird
seeing 5 and 6 pin connectors posted on there
but almost positive mine is a 4 pin.
When I connected a second line to the back of
the tail lights yellow wire, it also fixed my dash
light problem as well.
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