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Post by gy6er on Jan 26, 2016 7:37:42 GMT -5
I have had several scoots, my 50cc (50mm Ncy bbk) Taotao cy50 (T3) was awesome. 55 mph on a garmin... of course that's waaayyyy all out and only for test, but I personally hate 150 bounce/wobble from the engine iso bar!! I had not changed the gears on Taotao,just kit,mech ported head (hoca) and 24mm carb w/ Ncy pipe. Ran till wheels fell off. Many thousands of miles. Only a belt break in all of that. Point.. 50cc w/ hugh bbk 50mm is cool but now in md can't even ride on shoulder. A copper pulled me over showing me that now the new deff of roadway includes shoulder's too. Can't ride on roadway by law.So, 50 is cool but for real speeds you need a bbk. If you rode one with a bbk,24mm carb and ncy pipe,you would never step foot on a reg 50 unless you really wanted slow(30-32 mph) 150cc is a strong motor and love cruising a gps 47-52 in a slight head wind. Light wind and long straights-55 gps. I love both but for back roading really liked my 85cc Taotao. Be ware,lots of $$$$ to upgrade a 50 though.
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50cc vs 150cc
by: geh3333 - Jan 26, 2016 9:35:25 GMT -5
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Post by geh3333 on Jan 26, 2016 9:35:25 GMT -5
The only 50cc scoots I've ever actually riddin were ones my dad and I rented down in north Carolina while we were on vacation. After I road them , I had to buy a scoot . finally about 4 years later I did purchase my first scoot . me being a 200+ lbs rider , the 150cc had plenty more power then the 50cc . even with the 150cc , I still had to modify the engine so I was able to ride in traffic between 50-65 mph . its nice to have the power to be able to pass cars if need be , or the power to be able to run at 55 mph and not be at WOT .
I'm sure there are many who prefer a 50cc over a 150cc and its actually probably impossible to say which is better since its mainly based on opinion . one of the only aspects we can use to determine which scoot may be better would be the weight of the rider. For instance a 300lbs person would benefit greatly from a bigger framed 150cc scoot. I would expect the 150cc " in this situation " would be safer and not have to work as hard to get from one place to another. But other than the weight of the rider , I'm not sure there is any other way we can determine which is " better "
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Post by steve on Jan 26, 2016 12:19:33 GMT -5
I have a 50 with 40K miles on it. I have another one that is modded up to 100cc, and it is ridiculously quick. It has so many mods that it is less reliable. Stock, they are probably pretty equal in reliability.
Your point about lights is backward: AC lights are only on when the engine is running. DC systems sometimes have lights that come on with the key, but you don't want to elrun the lights on these little batteries.
I have enjoyed teaching myself how to work on these scoots. I will probably move up to a 150 here soon. But, I will end up modding it to the max, so it runs like a 250. Ha.
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50cc vs 150cc
by: geh3333 - Feb 5, 2016 0:26:36 GMT -5
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Post by geh3333 on Feb 5, 2016 0:26:36 GMT -5
I have a 50 with 40K miles on it. I have another one that is modded up to 100cc, and it is ridiculously quick. It has so many mods that it is less reliable. Stock, they are probably pretty equal in reliability. Your point about lights is backward: AC lights are only on when the engine is running. DC systems sometimes have lights that come on with the key, but you don't want to elrun the lights on these little batteries. I have enjoyed teaching myself how to work on these scoots. I will probably move up to a 150 here soon. But, I will end up modding it to the max, so it runs like a 250. Ha. I was able to get the 150 with a 58.5bbk and all the other mods " besides crank" to hit 67-68 on straight runs and up to 80 mph down a big hill, lol. I posted a 10 mile video of my scoot hitting 67 on straight runs and 76 down a semi big hill. The video had the GPS in the top corner showing the speeds . The main thing to remember is that I'm about 206-215 lbs , so imagine a 120-150 lbs rider. Nearly 65-100 lbs lighter would really let the scoot run closer to 75 mph on straight runs , maybe higher. Just a quick CVT adjustment and that thing will fly !! |
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Post by steve on Feb 5, 2016 7:37:19 GMT -5
I have a 50 with 40K miles on it. I have another one that is modded up to 100cc, and it is ridiculously quick. It has so many mods that it is less reliable. Stock, they are probably pretty equal in reliability. Your point about lights is backward: AC lights are only on when the engine is running. DC systems sometimes have lights that come on with the key, but you don't want to elrun the lights on these little batteries. I have enjoyed teaching myself how to work on these scoots. I will probably move up to a 150 here soon. But, I will end up modding it to the max, so it runs like a 250. Ha. I was able to get the 150 with a 58.5bbk and all the other mods " besides crank" to hit 67-68 on straight runs and up to 80 mph down a big hill, lol. I posted a 10 mile video of my scoot hitting 67 on straight runs and 76 down a semi big hill. The video had the GPS in the top corner showing the speeds . The main thing to remember is that I'm about 206-215 lbs , so imagine a 120-150 lbs rider. Nearly 65-100 lbs lighter would really let the scoot run closer to 75 mph on straight runs , maybe higher. Just a quick CVT adjustment and that thing will fly !! Wow! That is really good tuning! Impressive for a 150. I run a Koso variator now. Koso and DLH are really good for the money. I think they are the same variators, with different writing on them. I found these Kevlar belts on eBay that will chew up variators if you don't replace them when they are worn, but they get awesome climb. All the way up the variator. I need to make a video. I can get my scooter to at least 53 mph on a straightaway, and I think I might be able to hit 60 with a brand new belt. I'm going to try. With that variator and belt, the RPM do not get really high. It stays at a steady 7500 the whole time. |
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Post by steve on Feb 5, 2016 7:43:57 GMT -5
I did put a stroker crank on mine. I'd heard from too many people that the crankshaft bearings would undoubtedly fail on the stock crankshaft, once I installed the 52mm BBK.
BTW, this Hoca stuff is really good. For 50cc scoots, Hoca is the way to go. I want to try their variator, but it's really expensive.
I have not changed the gears. If I did, I bet I could go 63mph, or more.
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Post by gold9er on Feb 23, 2016 18:24:15 GMT -5
I caint imagine riding a 50cc regulary with only top speed about 40mph. im used to my 150cc. some streets where I ride people go 50mph even in the city streets. you need to be able to keep up with traffic and be able to pick up speed after slowing down. and going over pot holes. you need extra weight to deal with that. a lot of people don't care about scooters. they will cut you off like you not there.
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