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Post by oldchopperguy on Jan 18, 2016 20:01:32 GMT -5
... and would give a hawk vertigo staring through 'em... Leo in Texas Leo, you have some of the bar-none best phrases out of anyone on the 'net! >'Kat
Kat,
HeHeHe... I guess it comes from my long-term "Texasfication"... My ALL-TIME favorite, when somebody's giving me a load of BS, is to reply: "Listen, Hoss... I know when somebody's pissin' on my boots and tellin' me it's rainin'..."
Ride safe, and KEEP YER' BOOTS DRY!
Leo
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Post by oldchopperguy on Jan 18, 2016 20:32:23 GMT -5
To do things righteously you are suppose to look over the windshield since they are usually not optically correct and tend to obscure things especially when they are wet or dirty. A good tech when setting up a bike for you will adjust the windshield to be just below eye level even if that means cutting it down.
Rockynv & Floridagull,
Looking just over the windshield, in the "hole in the wind" has been the normal, accepted setup for decades. The thing that's changing my mind is the GIVI shield on my old Kymco is MONUMENTALLY tall... Absolutely meant to look through (a short-waisted rider would need to stand up to see over it) and, it's non-adjustable with a "spoiler" at the top. To cut it down (which I considered at first) would remove the spoiler-shape which creates a REALLY nice "bubble" of calm air for the rider.
It's an amazingly effective design, and, made from optically-correct, brand-named Plexi-Glass (like aircraft windows). The only problem I had was, at first, it seemed "strange" and interfered with my balance. That went away after only one day's riding.
I'm very long-waisted which facilitates a relaxed riding position, yet makes it easy for me to sit up and look over the windshield if I want to. So... I've tried it BOTH ways a LOT, considering breaking out the old jigsaw. One thing I did learn is just how narrow the margin of protection is when looking over the shield. It works, of course, but you must keep your head in the "sweet-spot" of calm air above the shield.
Now, after two full riding seasons, I've changed my mind and prefer looking through the shield. It would be different if it weren't so optically correct. (And I keep it CLEAN). It's really as good as the typical car windshield.
Looking through it makes for very relaxed riding, especially at higher speeds, and does not require any conscious effort to keep out of the wind. As a lazy "cruiser" I truly like that!
With today's technology making REALLY clear, distortion-free windshields, the casual rider may prefer looking THROUGH one... But ONLY if it's very clear.
If I was adding a windshield to an existing scooter, I'd try for an adjustable one that's optically true, and set it up so when relaxed and laid-back, I'd look THROUGH it, BUT... I'd still make sure I could peep OVER it when I wanted or NEEDED to, especially after dark.
Just my thoughts, having tested out riding the Mouse both ways... 
Leo in Texas
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Post by rockynv on Jan 18, 2016 23:09:28 GMT -5
Especially here in the Deep South if you have it too high then hot days can really become a bear to deal with and you will be considering putting air foils to direct cooling air around the windshield or you can really get cooked. With a windshield over your head then the cooling vents on your helmet won't work as well either.
So I guess it may depend for some on where they are located. Here with roadways at over 100 degrees most of the year when the suns out, having good air flow becomes more critical.
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Post by oldchopperguy on Jan 21, 2016 17:15:35 GMT -5
Especially here in the Deep South if you have it too high then hot days can really become a bear to deal with and you will be considering putting air foils to direct cooling air around the windshield or you can really get cooked. With a windshield over your head then the cooling vents on your helmet won't work as well either. So I guess it may depend for some on where they are located. Here with roadways at over 100 degrees most of the year when the suns out, having good air flow becomes more critical. Good point!
Summer here gets over 100 quite often... I guess I'm just spoiled by the windshield on old Minnie Mouse. If it's too COLD, I can slouch down and stay warm, and if it's too HOT, I can slide back a little on the seat, sit a little more upright, and enter the "windy-zone"... LOL!
And it even keeps my HANDS warm! 
In all honesty, I've had numerous bikes with windshields and never did like any of them very much. Somehow this aftermarket GiVI shield which came on the used Kymco ended up "perfect" for my head-level, height, etc. and can be "tweaked" while riding, by making minor changes in seating positions.
Windshields are like marriages... When they're BAD, they're AWFUL. When they're GOOD, they're GREAT! Just the way things are I guess.
Just one more "factoid" concerning our 2-wheel rides... 
Ride safe!
Leo
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Post by SylvreKat on Jan 21, 2016 23:38:27 GMT -5
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Kat,
HeHeHe... I guess it comes from my long-term "Texasfication"... My ALL-TIME favorite, when somebody's giving me a load of BS, is to reply: "Listen, Hoss... I know when somebody's pissin' on my boots and tellin' me it's rainin'..."
Ride safe, and KEEP YER' BOOTS DRY!
Leo
[/quote] Like one of many good lines from The Outlaw Josey Wales--"There's another old saying, Senator: " I've got that saved for some appropriate moment. ***** As for windshields, all I have is that little short-shorty (you can see how short in my avatar pic). Can't tell you much how it does wind deflection. I haven't driven in different postures, just upright. But I'm pretty sure it's a whole lot colder in the fall than Leo's big honker. >'Kat |
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Post by oldchopperguy on Jan 22, 2016 0:24:21 GMT -5
Kat... Yup! That's "the Cowboy way" as the Duke might say... Every time I hear a great come-back like that, I can't help but think of "Obamacare" "Benghazi" "executive-orders" and such... LOL! I will be SO glad when spring comes around, and I can use the scoot for daily transportation again. I really want to install a set of Dr. Pulley sliders this year, along with the pair of LED driving lights I got last year. Ride safe! Leo |
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