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Post by loosegrit on Mar 17, 2014 23:03:25 GMT -5
I have been toying with this ideal for some time. I saw this at Harbor Frieght and it started to come together.  And ended with this.   This trailer includes: Mounted Spare Tire Under Box Battery mounted behind the tale light Mounted spare fuel & water cans 12v outlet Foldup box mounted on top of main box Hardest part Trailer Hitch. Using a 3/8" double eye turnbucket bolt mounted to a ubolt on trailer   Wiring done using 2 4 pong standard trailer plugs. So ran it around town about two hours, ran well.  I hope to try a run from Vegas to Pahrump, shortly. |
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Post by spandi on Mar 17, 2014 23:11:29 GMT -5
I Always like it when people submit trailer designs. But what is it attached to?  (BTW, is there any need for trailer registration on a unit this small?) |
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Post by JerryScript on Mar 18, 2014 1:04:43 GMT -5
Nice work on the trailer! You never cease to amaze me with how far you are able to push your 50cc! You have inspired me to try scamping myself this spring, you inspired me with your DV trip, but my first attempt was foiled by high winds along Lake Mead. When loaded for a trip, how much total weight do you think you're carrying, and pulling now that you've added the trailer?
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Post by loosegrit on Mar 18, 2014 5:44:30 GMT -5
China Jonway 49cc 12" wheels no engine mods. Trailer requirement unknown if stop I will say it a bicycle trailer. My trip to Pahrump will tell me a lot. I am hope for 6 day scamping Easter Break.
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Post by loosegrit on Mar 18, 2014 13:34:35 GMT -5
To mount the box on the scoot it self , I have 2 1" steel pipe coming out of the open end frame. And the light plastic box
that I got a Walmart it needed support under it so I built a wood box that sit on the pipes, giving support to the plastic box and
creating a shelf for additional space. I put some thin metal strips on both side of the bottom self for extra strength. Then run an eye bolt with a wing nut thru the center of the turnbucket. And there is a second bolt coming down the shelf to keep the turnbucket from swiveling.
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Post by nulldevice on Mar 24, 2014 18:30:57 GMT -5
I sure wish my current hitch project was as simple, but one less wheel and 500cc speeds complicates things.
Keep a close eye on the U-bolt attached to the cart handle. I have found the unreinforced holes tend to cause the tubing to crack under repeated loads.
Check your state laws about utility trailers. In Ohio they don't care how small, how light, how many wheels, or how little it is used. If the wheels touch the road they require a plate. No plate and the police can have it towed and give you a traffic ticket. That could be expensive as well as ruin your trip.
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Post by ltdhpp on Mar 24, 2014 21:54:28 GMT -5
What is the indented use of that contraption? Hopefully more than just a general utility cart???
I hope the spare tire it carries is for the trailer - extended high rpm in Nevada heat will be the quick death of any tire/bearing 'not intended for highway use'
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Post by nulldevice on Mar 25, 2014 10:52:33 GMT -5
What is the indented use of that contraption? Hopefully more than just a general utility cart??? I hope the spare tire it carries is for the trailer - extended high rpm in Nevada heat will be the quick death of any tire/bearing 'not intended for highway use' That looks like a cart for oxygen acetylene welding tanks, the ones that stand chest high. As for the highway speeds, I agree he should have a spare tire and tube for the trailer, but failure from "highway" speeds seems unlikely to me. That is a heavily loaded 50cc scooter towing it. I doubt it will go fast enough for high speed bearing failure to be a factor. The rubber tires won't melt from Nevada heat -- they come out of the mold at about 400 degrees F. |
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Post by oldchopperguy on Mar 25, 2014 14:45:15 GMT -5
Pretty neat idea, and creative repurposing of something made for a different use!
I don't know about the longevity of the wheels and tires that come with the cart, but... If they're anything like modern bicycle wheels, they should hold up fine for many miles at 40mph or less. Some of the better mountain-bike wheels, bearings and tires are actually good for 100mph or so, downhill over rough stuff!
The only problem I see with this is the "legality" issue. Some states don't even require a 50cc scoot to be licensed, let alone its trailer. Other states (like my Texas home) require ANYTHING with a motor to be titled, licensed and INSURED to drive on public roads. A light-duty homemade trailer like this doesn't require a title in TX, but it still MUST be licensed, with a plate on it (along with DOT mandated lights, and/or any other state-required safety equipment).
I like the concept, and happen to have languishing in my shed, a roto-tiller frame that looks like it was MADE to be a cycle-trailer chassis... AND, a pair of ancient NOS small-aircraft tail-wheels, rated for 100+mph. Cute little guys, with 4" rims, 8" tires and high-speed roller-bearings. Set into the tiller-frame on individual stub-axles, with bicycle coil-over shocks, it would be as slick a home-build as ever seen... And a pretty easy fabrication. Hardest part would be making the scooter hitch.
Would I use it enough to justify the $40 per year license plate? Gotta think this one over... LOL! Sure would be neat behind old "Minnie Mouse" for hauling stuff... Even at highway speeds!
I wonder what the DOT would think about putting a passenger seat on the trailer? Probably not too much... LOL!
In countries where scooters serve as the family car, you see every kind of home made trailer from wooden-wheel ox-carts to truly HORRIBLE cobbled-together units on wobbly, junk bike, or lawnmower wheels, resembling in concept, this nice factory-made one. As fast as America is sliding into a 3rd-World status, this kind of creative transportation may soon be "OK" here too. Maybe I should start hacking on that tiller frame to get ahead of the curve... LOL!
Hope Loosegrit does get away with this setup in his state, and has many happy miles with it!
Leo in Texas
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