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Post by wheelbender6 on Sept 15, 2013 20:23:23 GMT -5
A Morgan replica would be great, but the kits I have seen have been pricey. Maybe the price will come down as sales go up.
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Post by SylvreKat on Sept 15, 2013 23:21:14 GMT -5
Sorry, sky. When they first were announced I thought they would be a great thing. Then I found out their gas mileage isn't really all that great, plus their cost isn't all THAT cheap. And they barely hit interstate speeds, at least none that I've passed here (unless every single Smart driver drives interstate at about 55 mph?) And if one goes head-on against me in my Taurus, I'll be through the Smart before it ever gets done crunching Taurus hood and engine and gets to me.
So no offense, but not smart in my book. Then again, you're still hitting what? 30-something mpg, while my fat boy trundles around 17 (for now). Then again again, I can haul a six-foot painting in the back of my wagon. You? ;D
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Post by skyrider on Sept 15, 2013 23:53:37 GMT -5
I guess then you have never driven one, Kat. Ours will cruise easily at 80 and consistently get 40 to 45 mpg. I know that won't match the '92 Metro we had that gave us a good 55 mpg. But they don't make those any more. The Metro three cylinder is a 1000 cc. They said the Elio is 900 cc. But it must be something like that. They are both rated at 55 hp. The Smart is 1000 cc also and 78 hp.
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Post by prodigit on Sept 16, 2013 0:28:53 GMT -5
Plus, the smart is road tested, upto 120kmh hitting a concrete wall and not budging! The plastic plating will get crushed, but the frame of the smart is >60% high strength steel, which is the same as the Chevrolet Sonic, and Cruze. Most chinese cars, eventhough they are bigger, are weaker than the smart. Making the car so small, the engineers had to use high strength steel to make sure the driver and passenger where well protected within the cage. So you'll not die from riding 40MPH full on another car riding 40MPH from the opposite direction. However you might die from the G-forces.
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Post by domindart on Sept 16, 2013 0:29:56 GMT -5
dom', according to their site, it does. It states dimensions for the passenger as well as driver. I'm guessing they sit in-line, 'cause it also mentions cargo capacity with the rear seat down. >'Kat wow, there is a seat back there? lol Why didn't they just make this thing a four wheeler
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Post by rockynv on Sept 16, 2013 3:58:31 GMT -5
The Dirigo project was based on the 3 cylinder diesel Kawasaki mule engine and front drive axel long with a transmission from a scrapped Ford Ranger pickup and a swingarm from a old Kawasaki 750 motorcycle. Only does 75 mph but gets an average 78 mpg while its at it.
The crash test videos of Chinese cars/trucks are an eye opener:
Some claim that they are safer driven in reverse so the back of the truck gets destroyed and not the front. The total pancaking of the entire 4 door passenger compartment of the truck left little doubt that a 40 mph event was not survivable.
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Post by domindart on Sept 16, 2013 5:06:13 GMT -5
That video is scarrrrryyyyyy ouch *)
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Post by SylvreKat on Sept 16, 2013 6:10:19 GMT -5
Nope, sky, never driven one. Nor ridden in one. I don't know anyone "real world" who owns one. I'm just basing on what I've observed. And if yours can go 80, then why do the various Smarts I've passed on I-435 all--yes, I'm using the absolute all as in every one of them--all go only about 55?
The mileage info was from an article when they came out, quoting the figures. That's what first disappointed me, 'cause I had expected something a lot better than somewhere in the 30s.
You mentioned the Metro. My friend had a Suzuki Justy 3-cylinder that he just adored.
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Post by skyrider on Sept 16, 2013 12:52:54 GMT -5
The three cylinder Suzuki is what is in most Metros. Absolutely the simplest and easiest to work on of any car I've ever owned (and I have owned a LOT of different cats!!!) Some had four cyl. Suzuki engines.
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Post by prodigit on Sept 16, 2013 20:06:16 GMT -5
The Dirigo project was based on the 3 cylinder diesel Kawasaki mule engine and front drive axel long with a transmission from a scrapped Ford Ranger pickup and a swingarm from a old Kawasaki 750 motorcycle. Only does 75 mph but gets an average 78 mpg while its at it. The crash test videos of Chinese cars/trucks are an eye opener: Some claim that they are safer driven in reverse so the back of the truck gets destroyed and not the front. The total pancaking of the entire 4 door passenger compartment of the truck left little doubt that a 40 mph event was not survivable. That vid is of a chinese car of the 1980's. The automotive industry has evolved since then!
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Post by justbuggin2 on Sept 17, 2013 0:35:30 GMT -5
The Dirigo project was based on the 3 cylinder diesel Kawasaki mule engine and front drive axel long with a transmission from a scrapped Ford Ranger pickup and a swingarm from a old Kawasaki 750 motorcycle. Only does 75 mph but gets an average 78 mpg while its at it. The crash test videos of Chinese cars/trucks are an eye opener: Some claim that they are safer driven in reverse so the back of the truck gets destroyed and not the front. The total pancaking of the entire 4 door passenger compartment of the truck left little doubt that a 40 mph event was not survivable. they forgot to say that it saves money on the caskets for the people in the truck
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Post by rockynv on Sept 17, 2013 4:11:42 GMT -5
The Dirigo project was based on the 3 cylinder diesel Kawasaki mule engine and front drive axel long with a transmission from a scrapped Ford Ranger pickup and a swingarm from a old Kawasaki 750 motorcycle. Only does 75 mph but gets an average 78 mpg while its at it. The crash test videos of Chinese cars/trucks are an eye opener: Some claim that they are safer driven in reverse so the back of the truck gets destroyed and not the front. The total pancaking of the entire 4 door passenger compartment of the truck left little doubt that a 40 mph event was not survivable. That vid is of a chinese car of the 1980's. The automotive industry has evolved since then! That test was said to have been of a new vehicle done 5 years ago. 2013 subtract 5 years is 2008 not 1980. I work with people who lived in China, Korea, Vietnam, Taiwan and other parts of Malasia and they verified that the video is still represantative of the vehicles sold new there that are not from the American or European markets.
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Post by scootnwinn on Sept 17, 2013 16:28:24 GMT -5
This is from 2008
It hasn't changed much in the last couple of years I don't think...
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