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Post by jwalz1 on Sept 7, 2013 9:35:44 GMT -5
Just got back from a stint in Europe. Drove about a thousand mile between a bunch of different countries.
I noticed that at least in Germany, the Chinese scooters are catching on a little.
While they are not the general choice, nearly everything is a "name brand" especially in the big cities, you do see some more appearing. I saw quite a few in the german countryside. In Germany, scooters are around, and more so than in the US, but bicycles are the big thing. The Germans are bike crazy. But I did see some chinese scooters and one business had about a half dozen parked out front for sale. Most of the chinese models are 50cc, if the scooters go bigger, they tend to be a "name".
I think one of the reasons they are not as popular as they could be, and this is not a knock on the chinese scooters, is that people in these cities live in apartments and have no space to give the little bit of wrenching and TLC more common with the chinese bike so they might be a little less attractive. And there has to be a HUGE used market of Piaggios, Peugeots, Hondas, Vespas, Suzukis, etc so that getting a cheap scooter is probably pretty easy.
My Kymco Downtown seems to have become quite popular as I saw lots of them this time but in France they are called the "DinkStreet". Thankfully, they don't call it that here.
Just amazed at how many you see over there. Some cities, it is nearly half scooters. Tons of cool models with neat accessories. Men in suits and women in dresses going to work on their scooters. Pretty cool.
Spent a half day in Monaco, which is surrounded on all sides by other crowded french cities and for all the yachts and Ferrari's you see, you see ten times as many scooters.
For any car people, my favorite car is a Ferrari 458 Italia. I saw seven in one day, but sadly, they were all driven sedately and never got to hear one sing.
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Post by spandi on Sept 7, 2013 10:32:10 GMT -5
Europe has always had more of a scooter "culture" than the U.S. The cities spaces tend to be tighter and the distances smaller. In the good old USA, people think nothing of going for hundreds of miles for a road trip or just visiting friends or relatives. This really hit home when I came back from a trip to Europe. Everything here, houses, cars, roads seemed HUGE and new, and much more fast paced (gas way way cheaper too) Is it any wonder scooters haven't "caught on" that way here?
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Post by jwalz1 on Sept 7, 2013 13:54:32 GMT -5
Everything here, houses, cars, roads seemed HUGE and new, and much more fast paced (gas way way cheaper too) Filled the car up in Germany. It was $100 euros ($133) to put about 11 gallons in the tank.
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Post by domindart on Sept 7, 2013 15:12:26 GMT -5
Everything here, houses, cars, roads seemed HUGE and new, and much more fast paced (gas way way cheaper too) Filled the car up in Germany. It was $100 euros ($133) to put about 11 gallons in the tank.
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Post by freefour1968 on Sept 7, 2013 15:58:03 GMT -5
Lol yup . Things are a little different on this side of the pond .just to get a drivers license it costs 1500€ , for a scooter 407€, motorcycle is 900€ . The high schools have half their parking lots with scooters and little 125 cc cycles . Many people ride bikes and scooters . In the Netherlands there is a huge scooter community with many many roads just for walking, cycling and scooter traffic ....somewhat the same here in Finland too also the "emergency lane " is for walking , cycles and scooters also. Big tuner community too . The Chinese scooters are getting more popular but you don't dare sell those lower grade ones , referring to that grading system when at the factories .......many brick and mortar stores with service bays . But hey look what you have to compete with your like on Vespa, Piagio , Peogeot , Giliera, Aprilia ,and many more home turf lol. Keeway , sym , kymco, and the Japanese makes are looked at as good quality and the new comers as ok . Wish you would have been up north a little more , could have taken you on a great ride to Helsinki and surrounding countryside .
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Post by jwalz1 on Sept 9, 2013 14:29:14 GMT -5
My wife gets annoyed with me because I like all thing mechanical and when we sit for lunch in a café on the sidewalk, I stare at all the scooters and Euro cars that go by.
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Post by SylvreKat on Sept 9, 2013 22:10:30 GMT -5
My Mom got irritated with me when we went to "Last Best Marigold Hotel". I sat there spotting the Piaggios amongst the scooters. ;D
I imagine I'd be just as bad if I was over there for real.
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Post by freefour1968 on Sept 10, 2013 8:17:45 GMT -5
[replyingto=jwalz1]jwalz1[/replyingto]Lol same here ...wife starts to get that look in her eyes of " omg he's talking about scooters again " every time I talk about what upgrades I want to do or talk about scoots in general . Oh she also rolls her eyes when I point out the different kinds when they buzz by or I see them on the road lol.
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