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Post by newbscootdude on Aug 25, 2013 11:32:08 GMT -5
check it out all advice is welcome!
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Post by jeepsteve92xj on Aug 25, 2013 11:41:31 GMT -5
Cut the nuts with a dremel.
It is hard to turn both nuts anti-clockwise and lift the mainifold at once. You could maybe just go ahead and cut a stud or both and replace with new studs and nuts, or with bolts.
My Xingyue has a taller manifold and uses bolts instead of studs.
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Post by newbscootdude on Aug 25, 2013 11:43:26 GMT -5
any other options i dont own a dremel? i can borrow a hack saw or something.
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Post by jeepsteve92xj on Aug 25, 2013 11:59:13 GMT -5
if you could turn each nut counter clockwise and try prying up with a thin blade of some sort - to get it to catch.
a hacksaw could work, dremels are a very nice to have tool. (even the cheap Harborfrieght version)
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Post by newbscootdude on Aug 25, 2013 12:03:55 GMT -5
ya im thinking of getting one but as usualy money is tight atm. umm thanks ya ill try that see if i cant get them to move.
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Post by newbscootdude on Aug 25, 2013 12:14:58 GMT -5
ok so just tried about every leverage point i could think of tried with the hacksaw blade but couldnt get it under the nut. tried leverage with a long screw driver under the manifold pushing up got nothing, then tried down as well just to see if maybe it would catch a little that way. so i know this is kind of a stupid question but i have to ask. with the studs stripped out like this will it cause a vacuum leak between the manifold and the valve head? im pretty sure it will im just curious because it still feels like its on there pretty good.
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Post by newbscootdude on Aug 25, 2013 12:19:07 GMT -5
actually there is a harbor freight not too far from me they have one for 10 so ima go pick one up. thanks jeepsteve!
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Post by jeepsteve92xj on Aug 25, 2013 12:19:25 GMT -5
yes, it will be a leak.
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Post by sailracer on Aug 25, 2013 14:28:08 GMT -5
Did you try a vise grip yet? grab the nut, turn and pull at the same time. should come out.That would be 1/2 the battle. the other half is that the studs are probably not stripped. The aluminum head, being the softer metal probably has the stripped threads.
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Post by newbscootdude on Aug 25, 2013 15:49:56 GMT -5
ya i tried just about everything i tried grabbing it with pliers and twisting the nut but upon closer inspection it is the nuts that are stripped and not the studs. i went and bought this pathetic little dremel and i was out there for like 1 hour and didnt even make it halfway through the nut yet..... umm if i take the engine off i can use a hacksaw wich to me at this point sounds easier just taking the rear end off the scooter and sawing away on the nuts. maybe ill go get a better pair of pliers and try it out.
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Post by sailracer on Aug 25, 2013 16:58:21 GMT -5
You do know that you can reposition the blade in most hacksaws degrees, so it's perpendicular to the handle. this is for flush cuts.I think you problably are going to have to remove the motor or at least disconnect the mounts to get the room you need.
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Post by newbscootdude on Aug 26, 2013 12:01:57 GMT -5
ok so i finally got the nuts off with that craptastic "rotary" tool from harbor freight. and im trying to remove the studs and i have a pair of vice grips but they just keep sliding and have nothing to grab on to no matter how hard i bite down on the studs. is there a trick to getting studs out? i would try the two nuts trick but there isnt enough thread to fit two nuts on it let alone its really damage threading.
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Post by sailracer on Aug 26, 2013 13:01:04 GMT -5
try WD-40. You may have to let it sit a while. The heat from the cylinder probably dam near fused the two metals together. sometimes you have to soak it with WD, and work it back and forth- a little more each time. alittle heat might work too, but you have to be careful
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Post by newbscootdude on Aug 26, 2013 13:12:43 GMT -5
ive been using pb blaster i cant even get them to budge. i even made some scores in them with the little dremel i have so the pliers can grip a little better but nothing so far.
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Post by sailracer on Aug 26, 2013 13:33:09 GMT -5
yup, that's cause of the heat from running lean. My plug even got frozen into the head like that.(careful not to strip out the head like I once did).The only thing I can suggest now is use a torch to heat up the aluminum around the studs. Be real careful. Do'nt overheat it. If that do'nt work, try heating the stud.If that do'nt work, you will have to cut them flush.centerpunch,drill them out,and re-tap them.Or get another head.
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