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Post by newbscootdude on Jul 30, 2013 14:04:03 GMT -5
I tried tapping on it with a rubber mallet it wont go anywhere i even tired applying pressure to it while using the electric start that didnt help.
the only thing i can think to do would be to take the variator gear that the starter gear is stuck on off then push the starter back into its resting position.
The whole reason i was trying to start it without the cvt cover on was bc the other day while i was riding i heard this vibration at idle and during turns, once i got it home i was listening to where the sound was coming from and it sounded like it was coming from my variator like something was out of balance. the scoot had been started in two days so it didnt want to start this morning then my kick start locked and now this happened.
I was originally just gonna post a video of what my variator is doing but idk if i want to attempt to start it after i get my starter gear disengaged without the cvt cover on.
any suggestions?
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Post by newbscootdude on Jul 30, 2013 14:12:08 GMT -5
could i put my cvt cover back on and try kick staring it?
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Post by ramblinman on Jul 30, 2013 14:18:10 GMT -5
could i put my cvt cover back on and try kick staring it? NO... imo take the starter off. most likely the pin that pushes the gear in place is stuck. sry i don't know the correct terms but that seems logical to me. perhaps someone else has better answer, idk.
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Post by gatekeeper on Jul 30, 2013 15:01:30 GMT -5
Try putting a wrench on the variator nut and apply slight pressure in the clockwise direction to see if you can take pressure off the bendix gear. Then maybe you can push it back in place.
If that doesn't work then you will need to take the variator nut off and remove the outer variator face. (has the gear teeth on it)
Regardless you should replace the bendix with a new one.
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Post by scoots on Jul 30, 2013 17:45:51 GMT -5
one ur starter gear needs replaced 2 use a impact to get uur variator off and on if not ur belt will fly off.... thats from experiance
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Post by scoots on Jul 30, 2013 17:46:56 GMT -5
and u may even want to take ur starter out "the gold thing" and test if it even works and make sure the splines anrt bent
trial and error
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Post by newbscootdude on Jul 30, 2013 19:12:59 GMT -5
ok will try taking the variator drive off and get the starter gear off. any suggestions as to where to get a new starter gear? and just incase a sylinoid as well?
scoots if the splines are bent is that something that can be fixed or does it just need to be replaced?
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Post by scootnwinn on Jul 30, 2013 19:19:52 GMT -5
It will need replacement the splines should be quite difficult to bend
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Post by scoots on Jul 30, 2013 22:16:17 GMT -5
all on ebay or parts for scooters
its mainly 2 things that are cause the idle gear and stater itself all very easy if u take the variator off with a impact
u can take ur starter out and try to start ur scoot and see if it spins
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Post by scoots on Jul 30, 2013 22:17:02 GMT -5
oh and ur idle gear the bearings and bushings could be bad so replace and u wont hae this problem for awile
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Post by newbscootdude on Jul 31, 2013 12:56:56 GMT -5
ok since i stripped the crap out of that screw i might as well just replace the whole setup but my question still remains about the bendix bc im just curious. I found the bendix and the starter on ebay for pretty cheap about $35 for the both of them. would it be wise to not run the scoot with those pieces off? i can just put the starter back on and attach the wires that way i dont have any loose wires dangling around. and then i had a question about the main jets im looking to get. ive noticed that most of the main jets on ebay say either 5mm, cvk, or kenhin, or a mixture of 4-6mm with any one of those names. scrappy says my carb is a runtong, but it has K N the standard of japan stamped into the side of it which ive heard to be kenhin carbs. so how do i know which mm size jet to get and what brand? Would it be easiest to take my carb apart and just measure what ive got in there? this still leaves me with the question about the brands tho? does it really matter what brand i get or is it just certain brands are "better" than others just like everything else? Oh and when i mention the mm size of the jet i dont mean like 105, 110, 115 which is the jet size, i mean the width of the threaded part of the jet such as the bottum measurement on this pic www.motoracingshop.com/images/Prodotti/AAA%20generiche/carburazione/getti-massimo-mikuni-spaccato.gifAttachments:
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Post by newbscootdude on Jul 31, 2013 13:06:45 GMT -5
dont worry about the video for some reason it wont load and i keep getting an error. all i was doing was showing the damage to it and showing that it appeared to function normally and wondering if this was caused because of starting without the cover on or if it was caused from something internal in the bendix not working properly.
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Post by scoots on Jul 31, 2013 16:48:22 GMT -5
u need the bendix to start it if im not mistaken it has to push out and grab the variator
and yeah replace it all
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