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Post by RapidJim on Feb 19, 2013 13:55:41 GMT -5
Ice Bear Warranty Changes 03/2012 Well thanks to some folks who either did not do a PDI/Inspection or do it right, Ice Bear has been forced to change their warranty. Seems people were making warranty claims for items that either would not normally fail if the PDI was done ( loose parts falling off) , they broke the part during the PDI , or were making warranty claims by swapping parts instead of troubleshooting the problem and getting the right part. Once again, a few have made it bad for those that do what they are supposed to do. What this boils down to is if a customer decides to do their own PDI/Inspection their warranty period is shorter. Otherwise if they have it done by a shop they get their complete warranty. Now when they say certified/professional, they are referring to a person/shop that makes their living at mechanics, whether it be a bike/scooter shop, small engine shop, automotive shop, ect. The customer must supply a receipt showing the PDI/Inspection was done if they require warranty parts. Ice Bear also now offers to do the PDI/Inspection before the machine is even shipped. I am in the process of getting the cost and information for this service. Of course, if IB does the PDI then the full warranty is in place. This will also delay delivery. Another change of note, is that IB now handles all shipping damage claims if it was shipped by their carrier. This is a plus, the customer does not have to do all the leg work and phone calls to get a shipping damage claim. Most companies require you to do all the leg work. For more information see: www.rapidrepairpowersports.com/warranty.htmlAs I get more information I will update this thread. Jim/Owner Rapid Repair
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Post by 4950cycle on Mar 4, 2013 22:02:21 GMT -5
No, I'm sorry, I don't quite buy it . I bought my girlfriend a 260 linhia powered Honda Reflex copy (JCL MP 250 A) and had nothing but trouble that they tried to blame on a buyer (me) bad PDI. Sorry, won't fly here. I could redesign this scooter much less do a compident PDI on it. It had a bad starter clutch (wouldn't catch), valves so tight it wouldn't even Idle, and falling apart ignition switch that worked intermittenly (when it wanted to) right out of the crate. I just bought the parts and installed them rather than go round and round with Killermotorsports. A starter clutch on a 250 scooter is not cheap and quite a big chore to have to do to a brand new scooter. And the ignition switch was no party either. No, the warranty you speak of just got worse because the company wants to keep the profit margin up by not having to send customers expensive parts that should have been good in the first place. What doe's a PDI have to do with Bad factory adjustment on valves, bad internal starter clutch I ask you, poor QC on factory adjustments ? I know it's Chinese but theres no excuse for what they put me through. I AIN"T NO PDI PROBLEM !
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Post by RapidJim on Mar 4, 2013 22:14:32 GMT -5
Maybe either you misread or misunderstood or I didn't make my comments 100% clear. I used the words "Some Folks" and that "Once again, a few have made it bad for those that do what they are supposed to do." No where did I say "Everyone" or 100% of the people that . . . . . Also, this was written about "Ice Bear's ( the US distributor of Ice Bear ) TRIKE warranty, not a warranty that is offer by a "Dealer". Killermotorsports is a Dealer, not a Distributor. Besides the above, the machine you bought is a Roketa Scooter not an Ice Bear Trike. I did a search on your model and came up with: www.killermotorsports.com/250cc_Cruiser_Gas_Scooter_w_Trunk_Alarm_p/r-mc-54-250.htmThis is the Model Ice Bear Sells covered under the IB Warranty www.icebearatv.com/product/pmz250-c-fAlso take a look at Killermotorsports warranty on the above link. They offer a 3 month parts warranty not a 6 month parts/ 1 year motor and frame warranty as the distributor does. You want 6 mos or more you have to pay extra for it at Killer. I will also say that if you had an Ice Bear machine and had bad parts from the Factory, they would have stood behind them. I have never had an issue getting defective parts under an Ice Bear Warranty. The only thing I strongly disagree with is that the customer has to pay shipping costs, that I have no control over and feel it isn't right, but I don't know the distributorship. That seems to be standard with most Chinese Distributors. "What doe's a PDI have to do with Bad factory adjustment on valves, bad internal starter clutch I ask you, poor QC on factory adjustments ? I know it's Chinese but theres no excuse for what they put me through. " If you had bought the machine from a B&M Dealer instead of in the crate, the items you talk about would have been fixed before the machine went on the lot for sale. If you think for one minute that Yamaha, Honda, Harley, ect Dealers don't inspect and PDI their machines before the sale and find problems, you are sadly mistaken. Lets not mix apples and oranges. Jim
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