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Post by kevinharrell on Mar 20, 2017 5:37:42 GMT -5
Which Lennon is more macho? Vladimir  John  |
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Post by wheelbender6 on Mar 20, 2017 18:54:09 GMT -5
Vlad killed far more people than John, but I don't think that stat alone makes him macho.
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Post by flyangler on Mar 20, 2017 19:13:59 GMT -5
John Lennon ...Just Because
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 20, 2017 23:40:45 GMT -5
Vlad ran a country. John ran teenage girls.
Dunno if either makes one macho-ier.
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Post by spandi on Mar 21, 2017 9:06:48 GMT -5
I will half to be givink my vote (and I do this of my free vill, and not because KGB havink surrounding my datcha) to comrade Lenin!
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Post by wheelbender6 on Mar 21, 2017 19:42:38 GMT -5
Neither man influenced me very much.
-John Lennon was a pacifist but I eagerly served in the military. I do love his music.
-Vlad Lenin was a devoted communist/Marxist, but I treasure my freedom of speech.
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Post by thxcuz on Mar 22, 2017 14:42:53 GMT -5
Time will prove John Lennon influenced more people. Someday Russia and Comunisim as a philosophy are long forgotten but I like to think the music of John Lennon will live forever.
Though he was pretty much creatively bankrupt by 1968.
And had mommy issues
And treated women terribly
And Paul was the real talent in the band
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Post by SylvreKat on Mar 22, 2017 17:40:37 GMT -5
Time will prove John Lennon influenced more people. Someday Russia and Comunisim as a philosophy are long forgotten but I like to think the music of John Lennon will live forever. Though he was pretty much creatively bankrupt by 1968. And had mommy issues And treated women terribly And Paul was the real talent in the band Ask some young folks who The Beatles were. You'll get quite a few blank stares. Sadly, I think both Lenin/nons will be forgotten fairly soon. |
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Post by wheelbender6 on Mar 23, 2017 21:08:56 GMT -5
I feel like Vlad really missed an opportunity. Tsar Alexander III had already freed the serfs. Had Vlad more closely followed the teachings of Marx's "Communist Manifesto", soviets (ruling committes) would have been elected, at least locally. The system of ruling soviets would have been a long way from a democracy, but it would have been a big improvement over Tsarist rule.
Vlad was not a Tsar and didn't adorn himself in Faberge jewels. However, to the Russian people, he was just another dictator. He provided the Russian people with "Bread, Peace and Land", but not freedom of speech or a voice in government. It was BOHICA.
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