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Post by scootdoggydog on May 17, 2016 22:18:29 GMT -5
A pile of 70 confiscated motorcycles and all-terrain vehicles are on display after the New York Police Department crushed some of the 700 confiscated vehicles at the Erie Basin tow pound in Brooklyn's Red Hook neighborhood Tuesday, May 17, 2016, in New York. New York Police Department Commissioner William Bratton, who attended the event, said the department has been cracking down on unlicensed drivers who operate ATVs, mini-bikes and motorcycles without helmets. So far this year, more than 679 bikes have been confiscated and dozens of drivers arrested on such charges as reckless endangerment. Police crushed about 70 motorbikes beneath bulldozers Tuesday to send a signal to thrill-seekers who take dirt bikes and ATVs to city streets: They should be uneasy riders. The public pulverizing spotlighted a New York Police Department crackdown on renegade riders, often young, unlicensed drivers who zoom and spin through some neighborhoods on bikes that aren't street-legal. abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/crushin-nypd-bulldozers-wreck-renegade-cycles-39178859?cid=abcn_fb
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Post by jc on May 17, 2016 23:40:41 GMT -5
You must submit to our power so we can control you! We are here to "ENFORCE" the Peace!
We will intimidate, threaten and steal from you until you are subjugated!
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Post by rockynv on May 18, 2016 5:04:18 GMT -5
Great news!
Here they impound the bike and hold it there until you take and pass the Motorcycle Safety Foundations Basic Rider Course to ensure that you are able to ride safely without endangering pedestrians along with other motorists and are insured correctly to pay for any damage you cause.
Something has to be done about these scofflaws who habitually refuse to man up and assume their duty to be responsible citizens and follow the rules of the road. These unlicensed riders give us all a bad name because of their actions and its good to see something being done to stop them.
Hopefully more cities will follow this example and help stop the mayhem these outlaw riders cause on our streets. Its better to have them loose their rides than to have them continue to be out there harassing motorists who in some areas are so fed up with these guys that they will be more inclined to run down or shoot a rider just for being out their riding.
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Post by SylvreKat on May 18, 2016 7:09:22 GMT -5
Glad to read that they get more for the crushed bikes from scrapyards than they could auctioning them. I was concerned about the seeming waste there.
Also glad they're working to get the wild riders off the streets. I've only encountered two, and both could've easily caused other drivers to wreck. Although both were on street-legal bikes. Well, I assume the second was. He buzzed past me going so fast that he was out of sight almost immediately. But swerving through interstate traffic and making everyone swerve.
edit--make that three. Last night someone on a Ninja-type bike was weaving in his lane, but making sure he weaved at every oncoming car, including me. Again made everyone swerve. Luckily this was a pretty wide street so we had room to spare. Very unnerving!
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Post by bigggroovy on May 18, 2016 9:57:36 GMT -5
Have they not heard of auctions?
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Post by rockynv on May 18, 2016 12:27:02 GMT -5
Have they not heard of auctions? Remember in New York they had gangs of unlicensed riders harassing motorists, breaking windows and trying to pull them out of their cars. They want to send the "Get Out of Dodge and Stay Out" message to these guys. It's a drastic situation that these bad apples in the Big Apple have created so drasic measures appear to be in place now. They really asked for it and have no one to blame but themselves. |
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Post by JerryScript on May 18, 2016 19:36:45 GMT -5
I'm 100% in favor of getting these riders off the streets, I've watched plenty of videos that make me cringe. I'm not in favor of destroying property. In most states, there is no law stating you must be licensed to own a vehicle, just to operate it on public roads.
Give them fines and jail time if necessary, but our personal property rights should be protected. Remember, it's a slippery slope to say this is ok, LE always pushes it to the next level if possible, and you could have your vehicle crushed sometime down the road just for being late on your registration.
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Post by rockynv on May 19, 2016 4:25:52 GMT -5
Operating outside the law with willful intent and then skipping and having your now abandoned impounded bike crushed instead of auctioned is different from taking a bike from someone and destroying it with no opportunity to claim it back from impound because they mailed their registration renewal payment a bit late.
Remember we are talking about willful lawbreakers who skipped without claiming the bikes which could mean some potentially many were stolen which bring to attention the need to register all your road bikes and at least maintain a VIN/Serial number listing of your off road vehicles/equipment and reporting when they are stolen.
It would be sad if many of the destroyed bikes had been stolen and the rightful owners never reported the thefts and ID numbers to the police.
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Post by SylvreKat on May 19, 2016 6:22:30 GMT -5
The guy said it would cost more to make these bikes street legal and auction them, than they make crushing them and selling as scrap.
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Post by JerryScript on May 19, 2016 19:09:14 GMT -5
If they are abandoned, then this is nothing but a spectacle. If they are stolen, it should be LE's duty to attempt to locate proper owners. As for making them street legal, the majority are off road designs never meant to be driven on the street, so that argument makes no sense. Just a messed up story on all sides.
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Post by rockynv on May 20, 2016 11:38:50 GMT -5
Can't locate an owner who never put his off road bike into the system and failed to report the theft. They did close the window on the hoolagans leaving their bike in impound and having a buddy buy it back at a fraction of the impound and storage fees they owed the city. Sent a message to the hoolagins showing that they aren't going to put up with them and their poor behavior.
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Post by wheelbender6 on May 21, 2016 10:01:07 GMT -5
I am opposed to seizure of personal property by law enforcement. Seizing illegal drugs and stolen property is OK, but they shouldn't take your car or your bike. Such property seizure is unconstitutional and an abuse of authority, in my opinion. I'm pointing my finger at our lawmakers in this case, rather than our police officers.
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Post by rockynv on May 23, 2016 11:55:19 GMT -5
I am opposed to seizure of personal property by law enforcement. Seizing illegal drugs and stolen property is OK, but they shouldn't take your car or your bike. Such property seizure is unconstitutional and an abuse of authority, in my opinion. I'm pointing my finger at our lawmakers in this case, rather than our police officers. Bikes were not street legal and had to be towed to lawfully get them off the road. The alleged owners never claimed them and there was no filing of an owner of record so after the aging period were deemed abandoned and not worth auction so they were destroyed. Nothing unconstitutional here just the police legally transporting the bikes to the impound yard where the rightful owners could come with a truck or trailer to pick up the not street legal bikes and atv's. |
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Post by Bintelli - Justin on May 24, 2016 17:49:19 GMT -5
The comments we just put on our FB page www.facebook.com/Bintelli/Bintelli Scooters This seems a bit over the line. To just destroy perfectly good machines? Sell them and give the money to charity. Donate the vehicle to summer camps. Something! Do something besides just destroying value just to "send a message". What do you think? |
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Post by rockynv on May 25, 2016 4:35:00 GMT -5
The comments we just put on our FB page www.facebook.com/Bintelli/Bintelli Scooters This seems a bit over the line. To just destroy perfectly good machines? Sell them and give the money to charity. Donate the vehicle to summer camps. Something! Do something besides just destroying value just to "send a message". What do you think? Costs money to sell them since they have to hire out for that so they chose the cheapest option which was destruction and scrapping them. No place to legally ride them in New York anyway so to donate they would have had to find a venue removed from the city and still have to deal with the legal costs of processing all the bikes. All about costs and liability so they chose the option that had the lowest cost and risk. Remember that the news article has to put a scue or spin in their verbiage to generate traffic and add revenue so the real reason is not always the one highlighted or given primary significance by the media. |
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