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Post by horace on Aug 11, 2015 14:29:57 GMT -5
OK, so......
I am reviving a sleeping giant ( my 50cc beast ) It has sat for at least a few years.... About the time scootdawg switched to this forum...
ANYWAYS, Today is the big day- I will get her started!!!!!!!
What I have done-----
1) Cleaned fuel tank, Carb and replaced Fuel lines filter etc....
2) Got a new battery, Charged it and the scoot is cranking.....
3) Changed oil.......
Now my dilema-
I have an orange Coil/CDI and the original Coil/CDI. I figured I would return the scoot to stock condition for initial startup---
As I was fiddling around, I managed to loosen the stock coil plug boot innards. I taped it in my hand.
the Spark plug connection/ a spring and small cylinder fell out of the spark plug boot..... What order do these thing go back in? - I could unscrew the orange coil to look myself but, I'm being lazy... Is there a Coil/spark plug boot diagram?
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Post by horace on Aug 11, 2015 14:31:19 GMT -5
Oh and, once I confirm spark what would be the next step?
I really want to get her at least started TODAY!!!!
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Post by JerryScript on Aug 11, 2015 15:11:24 GMT -5
Same thing happened to me with the orange boot, I'll never purchase one again.
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Post by horace on Aug 11, 2015 15:28:23 GMT -5
Yeah, I agree
The whole "Racing" gimic is a bit frustraing at times, I did it to my stock coil/boot though. ( silly me) The orange one still works- a bit loose- but enough to check spark I hope......
A spring and small round cylinder almost like a Huge piece of pencil led came out...... I assume I can just put them back in.... I don't know what order though........ Does a Spark plug boot diagram ( with pics ) exist?
I went back to the original CDI and Coil for initial start but, I may have to use the racing coil unless some brilliant forum member can point me in the right direction.........
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Post by beenriding on Aug 11, 2015 15:42:55 GMT -5
I believe getting a used Japanese coil would be better than the orange ones, a new Japanese one would be best yet, but pricey.
In a pinch you can use an auto sparkplug wire if your boot is broken. But I wouldn't go to far with that pencil lead thingy not proper.
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Post by horace on Aug 11, 2015 16:01:51 GMT -5
Yeah, But, what are the guts in a spark plug boot? What is that Pencil lead thingy (for lack of a better term)..... I understand how the spring works  Sure I can throw parts at it, knowing how it works would better suit me though. Trying to do this with a ZERO dollar budget, I already have replacements parts for most common items......CDI/Coil /Plugs/ hoses etc..... Either the original or current parts WERE working. There is a copper or brass threaded fitting the plug end goes into.... Under that a spring and Pencil lead (if that is what we are calling it)---- Thanks again for your time The scoot is a BD50QT-3 1P39QMB Not a BT50QT-9 I already went through the BT diagrams on this forum.....I'm sure it's the same thing though. This is what was once called a secret 60cc BTW... Not sure how that relates to a spark plug boot though |
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Post by beenriding on Aug 11, 2015 16:11:07 GMT -5
Some have a tiny spring wire that can come off. Or maybe the boot itself is cracked?  |
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Post by scooter on Aug 11, 2015 16:14:33 GMT -5
you can buy a new boot for about $5. twist the old boot off the wire like it's a nut on a bolt and screw on the new boot.
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Post by beenriding on Aug 11, 2015 16:21:27 GMT -5
Oh and, once I confirm spark what would be the next step? I really want to get her at least started TODAY!!!! once you confirm spark, spray a shot of carb cleaner in the carb and turn it over. If you have a vacuum petcock, and no air filter installed you may not be creating enough vacuum to open fuel line. So, get spark, spray a shot of carb cleaner or starting fluid, make sure you open throttle when turning it over. If starts then I would say you have a fuel delivery problem. And get rid of that orange coil, it what's INSIDE that matters. They either use inferior wire or their winding process is flawed but they just don't last. I've tossed my last one. |
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Post by horace on Aug 11, 2015 16:27:09 GMT -5
Good call Scooter I can screw on the Orange boot to the stock wire, Or just use the "racing" Wire and boot....
THANK YOU BEENRIDING!!!!!! (Resistor Element) Pencil lead thing then Spring, then brass spark plug connection!
Got it brother---- Now lets see if I can get her to at least turn over
Checking spark and getting back to you all within the hour.......
Today she will Start!!!!!!! Or maybe not- wish me luck guys!!!!!
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Post by horace on Aug 11, 2015 16:45:13 GMT -5
Started on the 3rd TRY!!!!!!!!!!!
Can I give Been riding all my bones? Just what I needed
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Post by horace on Aug 11, 2015 16:53:40 GMT -5
I'm am soo happy, Now to get her back in a decent tune ( forgive me if I don't respond for a while) I have an old toy to play with!!!!!! THANK YOU ALL!!! Beenriding is my new HERO!!!!! Never doubt this man |
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Post by beenriding on Aug 11, 2015 16:59:54 GMT -5
I'm am soo happy, Now to get her back in a decent tune ( forgive me if I don't respond for a while) I have an old toy to play with!!!!!! THANK YOU ALL!!! Beenriding is my new HERO!!!!! Never doubt this man Aw shucks, just lying here in bed.... Just glad you got it going! It's all about the ride. |
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Post by horace on Aug 11, 2015 17:06:49 GMT -5
And Humble too.... Someone give this man a BONE- Pun intended |
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Post by horace on Aug 11, 2015 18:54:06 GMT -5
Update-
Thanks to Mr Beenridings diagram ( maybe JR should add this to the Tech section if not there already)
It seems I have NO front brake, That is for a different topic though.... I took a small ride to get a beer, inflate the tires... You know a general test ride------
Side note--- While putting air in the tires, I was offered $400.00 to sell the scoot.........
It's mine, so the offer was declined. Heck I only paid $600 out of the crate in 2009/2010
I simply can't Thank you enough Beenriding, You have a new friend wether you want to or not!!!!!
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