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Post by scootsman on Sept 9, 2013 17:02:07 GMT -5
Hello everyone,
I have been riding a 1985 Honda Elite 150 Deluxe for about a month now. I just changed the oil last friday, and noticed it smokes a great deal. I checked the oil, and it was VERY low. I drained and refilled it, which showed that I had lost +/- 300ml of oil in 2 days (around 20 miles of riding).
I am not sure how the oil is getting into the chamber. Before I take it to a Honda cycle garage, what (besides rings) could cause the oil to burn so quickly?
Thank you in advance!
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Post by scootnwinn on Sept 9, 2013 18:02:50 GMT -5
The valves... Have you checked to make sure one isn't being held open?
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Post by shalomrider on Sept 9, 2013 22:50:02 GMT -5
howdy, what ever it is, it is bad news. i would suggest it may have had a vacuum leak and burned a hole in the piston. you should pull the plug and see whether the oil is in the combustion chamber.
lotsa miles and smiles to ya
ken
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Post by alleyoop on Sept 9, 2013 23:10:27 GMT -5
If there was a hole in the piston it would not run no compression.
Alleyoop
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Post by skuttadawg on Sept 9, 2013 23:12:22 GMT -5
You can get a compression gauge kit at Harbor Freight for 20 dollars . Being a 1985 most likely the rings are worn . A burned up exhaust valve will also make it smoke .
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Post by scootsman on Sept 10, 2013 20:48:08 GMT -5
Thank you all for the responses!
scootnwinn, I haven't checked the valves yet.
I dropped it off at a local Honda garage today to get them to at least tell me what the culprit is.
I priced a few top end replacement kits, and I know someone who can install it properly at a much lower cost.
Could anyone point me in the direction of a reputable source for piston/rings/cylinder replacements?
Found a few, but I'd love to get everyone's expertise!
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Post by shalomrider on Sept 10, 2013 22:29:22 GMT -5
howdy, i don't wanna argue the point, but i didn't mean a 3 inch hole. could be just a broken ring etc. the point is , pulling the plug is the first move---
lotsa miles and smiles to ya
ken
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Post by oldbikerider on Sept 11, 2013 3:32:48 GMT -5
With an older machine you can also have leaking valve stem seals and worn valve guides. If you do the top end, replace these as well and get a good 3 angle valve job while the head is loose.
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Post by scootrboi on Dec 26, 2013 18:24:23 GMT -5
The valves... Have you checked to make sure one isn't being held open? I had that problem with my Heinkel. It backfired and used oil. It needed new rings and a rebore after 20,000 miles. |
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Post by urbanmadness on Dec 26, 2013 22:49:50 GMT -5
Check valve clearances....
Does it smoke on start up then clear up? If it does, then it's valve guides... in any event, being that old, its probably time for a whole top end and head rebuild.
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